Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[GreatJustice]

Yeah, as a human, Muslims are probably the easiest to get WC. At the moment, I can pretty much fight anyone and win, with the only problem being that my armies are so spread out that I need to spend about two years just getting them organized.

However, with SW, the Catholics get their Holy Orders from the very start, so what I've noticed is that Spanish Catholics fight Sunni Catholics, and then promptly win because they have about 30k worth of elite Holy Order troops while the Sunnis get about 5k less elite Muslim Holy Order troops at best. Also, getting Catholic MA down is a huge hassle because the pope gives ludicrous amounts of MA just by being around and being pious, to the point where winning five holy wars in a row and taking Rome only gets them down to 88%

[Satarus]

Yeah, as a human, Muslims are probably the easiest to get WC. At the moment, I can pretty much fight anyone and win, with the only problem being that my armies are so spread out that I need to spend about two years just getting them organized.

However, with SW, the Catholics get their Holy Orders from the very start, so what I've noticed is that Spanish Catholics fight Sunni Catholics, and then promptly win because they have about 30k worth of elite Holy Order troops while the Sunnis get about 5k less elite Muslim Holy Order troops at best. Also, getting Catholic MA down is a huge hassle because the pope gives ludicrous amounts of MA just by being around and being pious, to the point where winning five holy wars in a row and taking Rome only gets them down to 88%

Tengri are easier to WC with.  Their tribal invasion CB lets them take everything in the target just by sieging down the top holding on everything outside the war goal.

On unrelated note, how sucessful have your guys eugenics programs (if you have one)?  I managed to pull the nearly impossible.  3 15% checks in a row. I got the Strong, Attractive, Genius.

[Descan]

Muslims are easy, which is why I'm playing as Hurufi Moslem Sicilians. Heretics and you start alone, no one able to help you. And using the Project Balance mod pack, which have a lot more restrictions than vanilla. Like only holy war every five years,  or needing lots of piety and prestige and specific traits to call am Invasion.

I can still win a crusade against me and take down the Shia Caliph in Egypt on my own. :V

[andrea]

quick question: what causes hordes ( seljuks in this case) to spawn more event troops?

it seems that whenever I whittle them down to merely 10k soldiers, they spawn a new 30k stack in their capital, which makes defeating them VERY hard. So far, I only survived because I often attack them, damaging their stacks and then surrendering losing only money in the peace deal. And quite a bit os reloading earlier saves.

[Sindain]

Looking at the event files, in the case of the Sejuks it seems to be an event that happens when a successor of Sejuk (Sejuk dynasty and holds a king or empire title) has a martial of 7 (9, 11, and 13 reduce MTTH) and the year is between 980 and 1100.

It also gives them -75% decadence.

MTTH is 240 and each of those martial reductions are 50% so if the guy has 13 martial it only has a MTTH of 30. It can happen once per character it seems.

[Rolan7]

What's MTTH?  Sounds like a time between event triggers, so "Mean Time To H....."?

[LordSlowpoke]

happen

mean time to happen

[Greenbane]

It's usually expressed in months, too.

[Sindain]

Yeah what these guys said. MTTH= Meant time to happen (in months). It represents the % chance of the event firing every month by saying how many months it takes to happen on average. So something with a MTTH of 30 should theoretically happen every 30 months.

*Edit* What Satarus is saying is a bit more accurate.

[Satarus]

If MTTH is 12, then there is a 50% chance of it happening within a year.  In game mechanics, it's just a percent likely hood of it happening any given month.  Unless there is an additional trigger, more time passing doesn't make it more likely to happen.

[a1s]

If MTTH is 12, then there is a 50% chance of it happening within a year.

It represents the % chance of the event firing every month by saying how many months it takes to happen on average
What Satarus is saying is a bit more accurate.

Well, actually it's not. You're the one who got it closer- MTTH is the mean (average) amount of months between the even trigger being fulfilled (or the last time the event fired) and it firing. The actual probability of event happening at least once during a year if it's MTTH is 12 equals ~65%.
(for an easy way to see why the 50% model is wrong, note how MTTH 1 means "every month", not "50% chance every month")

[cerapa]

EDIT: Hmmpph. Ignore this.

[Satarus]

Have you ever come to the awful realization that you are probably sleeping with your daughter?  Man this game is messed up sometimes. 

[BFEL]

Satarus is Keeping it In the Family with Wincest

[Sindain]

Have you ever come to the awful realization that you are probably sleeping with your daughter?  Man this game is messed up sometimes. 

I once managed to be someones grandfather, father, and husband all at once. It really made the game confused when it came to succession. Though I did use the marry_anyone command to get around the hard blocks on wincest.