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Re: Crusader Kings 2 is released.
« Reply #3660 on: July 04, 2013, 03:33:54 pm »

I was a little bored:
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« Reply #3661 on: July 04, 2013, 03:35:45 pm »

I noticed that African queen is going to have her crown imminently fall over her eyes.

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« Reply #3662 on: July 04, 2013, 04:29:15 pm »

I... have no idea what I'm looking at there, Dutchling.
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« Reply #3663 on: July 04, 2013, 04:30:22 pm »

Crusade / Jihad / Great Holy War priorities.
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« Reply #3664 on: July 04, 2013, 04:40:40 pm »

I recommend launching a holy war for Serbia. It's Orthodox and it won't be as defended as the other ones.

Wait, can you launch holy wars against the Orthodox?

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« Reply #3665 on: July 04, 2013, 04:52:19 pm »

I recommend launching a holy war for Serbia. It's Orthodox and it won't be as defended as the other ones.

Wait, can you launch holy wars against the Orthodox?
You can launch holy wars on those from other religious groups, but not your main religious group.  So if you're Sunni you could launch a holy war on the Orthodox, but not on the Shia.  Assuming your religion even has that ability.
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« Reply #3666 on: July 04, 2013, 08:36:13 pm »

I recommend launching a holy war for Serbia. It's Orthodox and it won't be as defended as the other ones.

Wait, can you launch holy wars against the Orthodox?
You can launch holy wars on those from other religious groups, but not your main religious group.  So if you're Sunni you could launch a holy war on the Orthodox, but not on the Shia.  Assuming your religion even has that ability.
I think only unreformed pagans don't have holy wars.
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« Reply #3667 on: July 05, 2013, 12:38:00 am »

So, playing as a Zoarastrian ruler at the earliest start date.  Look at this map, noting that I am Karen:
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Karen is fucked.

Notice how its 21 years after the start date, and both a Tengri and Sunni ruler have formed massive death blobs above and below me.  What you can't tell from the picture is that the northern half of my realm, Takistan, was gained in a holy war and still has a large "new administration" penalty on every province cutting levy reinforcement rate by 70%.  As such, I've had to rely on mercenary horse archers to fend off the alternating holy wars of the Samanid and invasion from Cumania, paid for by the war reparations from previous wars.

The really sad thing is that there was a turning point where I might have been able to slow the Tengri's death blob.  I was about to win a holy war with Cumania and take what was then a third of their land, when I dismissed a merc army because it was two months pay from turning on me.   Then a different pagan army came out of nowhere and kicked my ass.  If I had won that war (which would have been easy if I hadn't been surprised) I might have been able to get the upper hand on the Tengri and then repeatedly holy war my way to a death blob.

The game isn't over but its only a matter of time.  I'm going to go crazy banishing people and hope that the money and mercs can keep me afloat temporarily, but its probably no use.  Highlight of this game: me and my wife (who is my half-sister, because don't judge my lifestyle) both loved each other (we were lovers and had 100 relations both ways) and had a long and happy marriage.  Except, I turned out I was probably going to have to murder her or lose the game, because she never produced an heir and Zoroastrians have no church to grant divorces.  Then, one year before she reached the magic no-kids cutoff point, she had a last minute miracle birth, a single daughter.

tl;dr:  Cumania is a funny word if you pronounce it a certain way.
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« Reply #3668 on: July 05, 2013, 01:15:08 am »

Swear fealty to one of them (Probably Abbasids, since they control persia) and om nom nom them from the inside.
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« Reply #3669 on: July 05, 2013, 01:19:45 am »

I think that swearing fealty to one isn't as gamey as constant imprison-banishing. Just acquiesce to the lesser evil, maybe pretend to be their religion while biding your time.
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« Reply #3670 on: July 05, 2013, 04:37:32 am »

About your wife not giving you kids: Incestuous marriages have a -75% penalty to fertility :/

Also, Zoroastrians can have up to three concubines so you don't have to kill her.
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« Reply #3671 on: July 05, 2013, 06:05:33 am »

I think that swearing fealty to one isn't as gamey as constant imprison-banishing. Just acquiesce to the lesser evil, maybe pretend to be their religion while biding your time.
If you try that, send your chancellor to improve relation with your liege. You have to be 75+ I believe so that he doesn't revoke you.
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« Reply #3672 on: July 05, 2013, 06:18:11 am »

Wanted to try out the Bretons since Tanistry plus Heavy Cavalry retinues sounded like the most overpowered thing since the Norse.
I might have hit a bit of a snag...
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« Reply #3673 on: July 05, 2013, 06:28:03 am »

Well, Frankish and Norman have Knight retinues too. But it's surprising to see William suceed in invading England for once.
And, what are you doing at desmesne 4/5 ? You should own the 6 counties in Brittany.
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« Reply #3674 on: July 05, 2013, 06:34:50 am »

Only just started the game, was beginning the process of kicking out all the other counts and owning the complete duchy myself. Took a claimant from Ireland and landed him with a city so I could expand into Ireland asap and form the kingdom of Brittainy. I was planning to expand into Normandy if Bill lost but no chance of that now.

The duchy of Brittany is surprisingly good being massive, completely coastal and having a decent set of holdings. With full cities I'm expecting to be able to pump out a lot of gold and hopefully steamroll my enemies with mercs and retiunes.
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