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[Catastrophic lolcats]

Besides not being able to mess with families and claims, I don't have any real complaints about Ruler Designer. I mean, really, how else are you going to get yourself a Greek-race German in Ireland at the beginning of the game?

Exploiting marriages and education it's actually quite easy (and rewarding) to do in a generation or two. I suppose some people might like the challenge of making a pagan count in the HRE but if you want to get wiped off the map in a blink of an eye you can always play Ethiopia. You can also just edit the character files and make all your changes there (or use the console), sure it's not quite as easy but you'll be able to retain relationship and dynasties.

I wish it was really just an in-game appearance modifier. Ruling without a beard is wrong and unjust.

[krisslanza]

Besides not being able to mess with families and claims, I don't have any real complaints about Ruler Designer. I mean, really, how else are you going to get yourself a Greek-race German in Ireland at the beginning of the game?

Not to mention it's the only way to try and do a female-ruler only run 
I mean, yeah you can edit the game directly, but that's like. Effort. Also only way I can make Basque... until I just console it now so I can go Absolute Cognatic...

[Tarran]

Exploiting marriages and education it's actually quite easy (and rewarding) to do in a generation or two.

Besides the point (start of the game). Besides, how easy is it to get your Greek German cultured?

I suppose some people might like the challenge of making a pagan count in the HRE but if you want to get wiped off the map in a blink of an eye you can always play Ethiopia.

I never mentioned religion, that's something I forgot.

And the experience of a Pagan in Europe to a Christian in Africa is very different.

You can also just edit the character files and make all your changes there (or use the console), sure it's not quite as easy but you'll be able to retain relationship and dynasties.

But I can't see any way to change the appearance.

But you make a fair point. Hadn't thought about that.

[Catastrophic lolcats]

Besides the point (start of the game). Besides, how easy is it to get your Greek German cultured?

It depends on how "gamey" you want your methods to be. It's quite easy to invite unlanded courtiers from other cultures to your own court if you shower them with gifts or set up some marriages with them. They can of course then be used for education or you can even give them a landed title and then quit and play as them.
I understood your point about the "start of the game" being the very start. I just thought it was worth stating it's possible to do in a very short period of time without the ruler designer.

The ruler designer has some purposes but I really don't find it all that necessary for anything apart from dicking around. 

[Tarran]

But isn't the entire point of games to dick around?

[Catastrophic lolcats]

Well played.

On a completely different note I'm thoroughly awaiting the release of "The Republic" expansion. The mechanics almost completely match up with my theorycraft oh how you could get a working republic in CKII.

[Greenbane]

Personally, I find the Ruler Designer quite important to my game experience. It wouldn't be the same for me if I couldn't spread my own personal dynasty through Europe. Sure, characters and dynasties can be created via modding, and I'm a bit of a modder to some extent, but it'd be pretty cumbersome. Especially if you want to move that dynasty/character around to try different starts.

I have most of the DLCs, save for most song packs, Sunset Invasion and the new Russian stuff, which isn't on a discount this week.

[Catastrophic lolcats]

Personally, I find the Ruler Designer quite important to my game experience. It wouldn't be the same for me if I couldn't spread my own personal dynasty through Europe.

My dynasty is in the game ... but he's a mayor.

[Spaghetti7]

Regarding the Steam sale of this: What opinions can I get on it? Looking at screenshots, I got the impression it was Total War campaign map minus the battles. Feel free to tear me apart on the point.

[Catastrophic lolcats]

It's never wise to compare Total War to Paradox games, completely different genres. Basically you have to manage a feudal dynasty with almost everything that would require. You have to manage vassals, marriages, holdings, wars, religion, events, taxes, laws, claims, intrigue, money, revolts. All of this is done through interaction of a "grand map".

It's an extremely hard game to explain. It's best to look up a couple videos on youtube or something. Even better is to pick up the demo. From that you should find out if it's the game for you or not.

[Rakonas]

Besides not being able to mess with families and claims, I don't have any real complaints about Ruler Designer. I mean, really, how else are you going to get yourself a Greek-race German in Ireland at the beginning of the game?

Exploiting marriages and education it's actually quite easy (and rewarding) to do in a generation or two. I suppose some people might like the challenge of making a pagan count in the HRE but if you want to get wiped off the map in a blink of an eye you can always play Ethiopia. You can also just edit the character files and make all your changes there (or use the console), sure it's not quite as easy but you'll be able to retain relationship and dynasties.

I wish it was really just an in-game appearance modifier. Ruling without a beard is wrong and unjust.

My current game is an African ethnicity Basileus, I don't know how I'd manage that without the ruler designer, and surprisingly 2 generations later of marrying white women the line is still mostly black.
I've actually come to have vassalized various kingdoms just by inviting claimants, landing them, and pressing their claims. Having made catholicism a heresy of the orthodox faith by restoring the pentarchy, I can revoke any catholic vassals' titles. Hungary and France (well, northern France) are ruled by Eunuch Themes, and almost all of the kingdom titles under me are destroyed. Most of my vassals outside the Empire are eunuchs at this point, it's the closest thing I can get to an absence of a feudal system.
I'm hoping that the republic dlc patch includes some way of changing the identity of holdings. There are numerous cases of castles being razed to the ground, and I'd like to engage in a policy of exterminating nobility a la the Jacquerie or English Peasant's Revolt. I know the republics are technically oligarchic merchant republics, but a man can hope.

[Lysabild]

Regarding the Steam sale of this: What opinions can I get on it? Looking at screenshots, I got the impression it was Total War campaign map minus the battles. Feel free to tear me apart on the point.

The less you know about the period and history the more you might enjoy it.

For me, the more I play the more horrible I find it. It's like the Devs are trying their best to destroy the games potential, limiting it to the most gimmicky and gamey they can think of repeatedly.

[Rakonas]

Regarding the Steam sale of this: What opinions can I get on it? Looking at screenshots, I got the impression it was Total War campaign map minus the battles. Feel free to tear me apart on the point.

The less you know about the period and history the more you might enjoy it.

For me, the more I play the more horrible I find it. It's like the Devs are trying their best to destroy the games potential, limiting it to the most gimmicky and gamey they can think of repeatedly.

I disagree, I have some pretty great fun thinking about how the scenario of each playthrough compares with actual history. The game isn't best suited for 1066 or 1453, with certain things seemingly fully developed in anachronistic ways or impossible to achieve. It's still fun and interesting and the history has much much more realism than medieval total war.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

To be fair to all both total war and ckII are grand strategy games. One includes tactical combat and the other has really complex politics, they are, in many ways, two sides of the same, poorly-minted medieval coin.

I must say: the two are very comparable and I dare say they would both benefit from including features of the other.

[Leatra]

I got the impression it was Total War campaign map minus the battles. Feel free to tear me apart on the point.

You really don't want to say that to people who love CK2.

KILL HIM!

But seriously, Total War is more about dealing with wars and military stuff. CK is more about political stuff. Both of them greatly lacks what the other has and there is a gigantic gap between these two games. You'll probably spend more trying to inherit a duchy rather than trying to conquer a duchy. Game may seem a little complex and difficult at first especially if you don't pay much attention to intrigue stuff but you will be assassinating your brothers, plotting against your liege and backstabbing your allies in no time.