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Re: Crusader Kings 2 is released.
« Reply #960 on: June 11, 2012, 09:39:37 am »

Might be a dumb question, but can you change the primary holding type of a county? (for example, from a town to a castle). Ormond is a Grand City rather than a country, so I regularly get the wrong government type penalty.

1. Make someone baron of the castle first, then grant him the county title. I
The capital settlment will change to the castle.

2. If you want to keep the county all the time, I think it might be possible (and unlike the above I really can't say this for certain because I can't remember ever doing it myself) by either just taking over the castle as well (making it shift automatically like above), or if it doesn't happen automatically you might be able to grant the city without granting the county.

It might he profitable to own a city yourself though. After building a couple of economic buildings and setting the stewards to tithing in the county you get quite the income boost. I often claim the city in my capital province so I can get taxing bonuses from both the castle and the city.


The learning curve isn't steep if you start off with a larger power. Starting with one-province counts and whatnot can be quite difficult, but that's more of a challenge thing you can do after you've played for a while.

I disagree. Starting as a king or emperor will leave you feeling overwhelmed in a minute as you have to handle every aspect as the game. Starting as a count or a duke (especially in Ireland) is the best for beginners, as you'll get to know the game from the ground up and add you rise in power also get a feeling for what playing a Big Guy is like.
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« Reply #961 on: June 11, 2012, 09:48:24 am »

EDIT: Are the dlc any good? What do they do?
Everything other than the ruler designer is completely cosmetic (mostly more music, as Lord Dullard said, but also different faces for one culture group and also more dynastic heraldry. These all change no game mechanics), and the ruler designer lets you make a custom ruler for whatever place you're starting as, when you start the game (apparently you can't do it when you load a save), and apparently there are rulers already in the game who are better than what you can make using the designer. I haven't bought it personally because I think it will just make me powergame too much and always start with the same traits for my first ruler (I don't personally educate my own children for the same reason). But if you do want to do all that stuff, I dunno, it might be worth the $1.25. There's also the Muslim DLC/expansion coming in a few weeks that's going to let you play as muslim rulers, at the same time as a patch to make them quite unique. The same thing is going to be done for pagan rulers at some point.
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« Reply #962 on: June 11, 2012, 09:54:08 am »

Is there any advantage to giving titles to relatives? from what I can see in my game, all they do is fight among them, and then ally against me to seize the throne.
recently, they rebelled as soon as I gave them land, laying claims on everything. even if they have no soldiers. their unruliness costed me half the kingdom of jerusalem.

meanwhile, the not bloodline vassals are happy and loyal.

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« Reply #963 on: June 11, 2012, 09:56:49 am »

Might be a dumb question, but can you change the primary holding type of a county? (for example, from a town to a castle). Ormond is a Grand City rather than a country, so I regularly get the wrong government type penalty.
That usually means you have a city as a holding when you are not supposed to hold cities. Find the city and right click it, create a vassal. It will create a duke/count/mayor or whatever to control the city for you and get rid of that penalty.
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« Reply #964 on: June 11, 2012, 09:59:35 am »

There isn't much advantage to giving land to relatives with claims on your lands, but if you give it to relatives without claims (or once the claims has aged away) they'll be a little friendlier than non-relatives.
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« Reply #965 on: June 11, 2012, 10:26:22 am »

There isn't much advantage to giving land to relatives with claims on your lands, but if you give it to relatives without claims (or once the claims has aged away) they'll be a little friendlier than non-relatives.
I'm still working out how the claims system works. Seems they could have provided a better interface to determine who has what claims.
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« Reply #966 on: June 11, 2012, 10:29:30 am »

Might be a dumb question, but can you change the primary holding type of a county? (for example, from a town to a castle). Ormond is a Grand City rather than a country, so I regularly get the wrong government type penalty.
That usually means you have a city as a holding when you are not supposed to hold cities. Find the city and right click it, create a vassal. It will create a duke/count/mayor or whatever to control the city for you and get rid of that penalty.

So I'm clear on this: If you give a county land grant to a mayor, who then gives you a wrong government penalty....if you create a vassal to run it, will the original mayor still retain the title?
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« Reply #967 on: June 11, 2012, 10:34:26 am »

Well, claims don't show up until they are inherited, so you have to check a person's father and mother if you want to be absolutely certain (it will say if it is inheritable if you hover over it - all pressed claims are).
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« Reply #968 on: June 11, 2012, 10:48:17 am »

I played this a bit, its a bit more complicated than I expected, haha.  I wasn't sure what I was doing, and I appear to have picked a bastard son as my character so I can't seem to continue my dynasty through him.  I wasn't sure what to do, but then when randomly clicking through screens I found that he had a Nephew with the same name is I do in real life.

I decided to try to put all my efforts into increasing my nephews power.  I hooked him up with a princess (although shes only 14, ew), and made him my spymaster.

I'm not entirely sure how succession works, but I might have to kill off another nephew if I want him to inherit my lands. 
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« Reply #969 on: June 11, 2012, 11:08:52 am »

Might be a dumb question, but can you change the primary holding type of a county? (for example, from a town to a castle). Ormond is a Grand City rather than a country, so I regularly get the wrong government type penalty.
1. Make someone baron of the castle first, then grant him the county title. I
The capital settlment will change to the castle.
Aha! Ok, that makes sense. Sweet...I'm assuming the same goes for making Archbishoprics and such now too (give the county title to a bishop instead of a baron)?
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« Reply #970 on: June 11, 2012, 11:49:06 am »

Yup, as long as you make him bishop first and it's the same county. If it's another county the bishop will just get the capital, unless the church is also unowned (and given at the same time) in which case I think it will become capital automatically like above.
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« Reply #971 on: June 11, 2012, 01:36:17 pm »

I bought this because 75% off and I loved EU3. So, any pointers? How do I expand glorious Irish county?
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« Reply #972 on: June 11, 2012, 01:44:12 pm »

I think the key is bang a lot and have lots of kids.
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« Reply #973 on: June 11, 2012, 01:52:06 pm »

WAAAAAAGH!

Also want county are you starting at? Basically if it is in one of the two-county duchies you might want to start saving up to create the Duchy title so you'll get a free de jure claim on the other county in the duchy. Might also want send your diplomat-councillor (chancellor or something? I can't remember right now) to forge a claim on another, neighbouring, two-county  duchy, if you want to go down the ignoble route ;)

Also, yeah, marriages is key. Get the best ones.
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« Reply #974 on: June 11, 2012, 02:19:03 pm »

I am taking the way of the one-county samurai. Although, perhaps I should start at Meath or something.
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