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Re: Crusader Kings 2 is released.
« Reply #9810 on: March 05, 2016, 12:59:35 pm »

I've had like, once, when an assassination triggered at under 100% plot power, but that's been over 300+ hours. So at least cross 100% plot power.
Yeah, the way the plots work is that the chance to trigger increases significantly when at 100% and above.
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« Reply #9811 on: March 05, 2016, 01:05:07 pm »

I've had like, once, when an assassination triggered at under 100% plot power, but that's been over 300+ hours. So at least cross 100% plot power.

Also, can you declare war outside the realm? Go after some pagans if you can. If you can't, try to work on assassinating the Emperor or forming/joining a faction to lower crown authority. The assassinating emperor is to try and get a regent in place who might lower crown authority, they tend to do that.
That's what I was hoping to do but whenever someone tries to do it, king's foreign allies roll into town. So at least I will have to see my king dead first. Also half of the world seem to have fabricated claims on me, so whenever I revolt, some Austrian jerk rolls into town.
Not sure about outside the realm, but everyone who's on par with me in terms of levies had been eaten by other nations.

What does it mean if I have "holding of wrong type"? I tried to get rid of this and accidentally granted a country to my nephew.
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« Reply #9812 on: March 05, 2016, 01:15:38 pm »

It means you hold a town or a bishopric/chapel if you're a feudal lord or a castle or chapel when you're a republic patrician, and any developed holding as a tribal chief (not sure about nomadic stuff). You can generally get away with assigning them to barons (right click on it in the holding view of a county, and click the... small crown option, I think it's the top one in the triangle)

However there's also the wrong government type, which works along similar grounds. A vassal of count rank or above holds a non-feudal holding as their capital (basically anything that isn't a castle) or because they are tribal/nomadic (not sure about that one, as I've not played with nomads yet) when you're a feudal government, non-city holdings when you're a republic government, and a developed, non-camp holding as a tribal government.
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« Reply #9813 on: March 05, 2016, 02:33:17 pm »

Deleted my most recent saves by accident when cleaning up the savegame folder so I decided to start a campaign as Bavaria to try some dynastic magic.
Everything was going pretty mediocre until someone got the king of Eastern Francia dead, leaving the realm with a 1 year old infant on the throne and me as the heir. Sadly one night the baby proved itself too stupid to ever rule a country and choked on his own pillow, oh the disaster!
Now I'm king of a huge blob, drowning in threat, every vassal hates me and wants me to lower crown authority, and I'm making so little money I have no hope of ever repaying that loan I didn't even know I took. But I'm king of Eastern Francia, so there's that.
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« Reply #9814 on: March 05, 2016, 04:04:55 pm »

I've gained a fondness for having Theocratic vassals run my realm everywhere I don't oversee directly. They don't have dynastic inheritance, so they don't acquire claims through marriage, new priests generate spontaneously on the last ones death so you never have to deal with vassals being kids, and if you're the leader of the faith, such as the Norse Fylkir, there's no wrong government penalty.  :D

Downsides are that you need a mod to overcome the cap on priests with counties and you need to cheat the ones you want to be kings into having the title since you can't give them kingdoms normally. Why can't the viking pope decide to have a theocratic nation normally? Not a clue, and it bugs me.
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« Reply #9815 on: March 05, 2016, 05:03:14 pm »

As a pagan I got in the habit of setting up my daughters as high priestesses.  Giving each on a temple then the county, even a duchy when possible.  IIRC they used "random asshat" succession, and generally got eaten away by other vassals.  Still, dedicating whole counties to Odin and extending nepotism to my daughters was fun.  I don't remember having much issue with vassal theocracies.  I guess they get the wrong government modifier, but they pay religious tax instead of vassal tax which can be quite profitable.  And they have much better levies than a republic, not to mention the complications of a vassal coastal republic...
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« Reply #9816 on: March 06, 2016, 12:08:03 am »

I feel as though hands that are not my own are guiding the fate of the Empire of Ald-Cyrod. There are an increasing number of Dunmer families within the realm (though there have been no wars between us and them), and both of my non-Dunmer sons were victims of assassination. Also little sidenote, my Dunmer's name is Caligula.
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« Reply #9817 on: March 06, 2016, 07:47:28 pm »

A Namira worshiper just became Emperor of Tamriel.

I'm beginning to doubt the usefulness of tanistry.

EDIT: Alva claims Holger is promoting vile heresies. Naturally, I'm slightly concerned, since Holger controls Ada-Mantia. I check Holger... nope, worships the Nine Divines like any prior ought to. Alva, however, worships Vaermina. How strange.

EDIT 2: Urjahbi just told me that Ra'Jahirr was promoting heresies. No shit. This is the Empire of Tamriel, both of you people are from Elseweyr and follow the same religion.
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« Reply #9818 on: March 06, 2016, 08:12:51 pm »

Hey, aside from 3 totally evil ones the Daedra aren't generally that bad.
I mean, at least they're not the elven gods and want to blow up reality (or whatever Auri-EL wanted the Aldmeri to do).

Compared to that guy the prince of repulsion sounds outright cozy.
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« Reply #9819 on: March 06, 2016, 10:01:48 pm »

Hey, aside from 3 totally evil ones the Daedra aren't generally that bad.
Honestly, even the god of rape isn't entirely bad.
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I mean, at least they're not the elven gods and want to blow up reality.
It's more like they want to escape reality, and destroying it is a necessary step in that. They want to take arms against a sea of troubles, and by opposing, end them. And since they predate the universe and the earthbones remember the time before time, they know the nature of the undiscovered country, and they consider it actually pretty great. That's a common trend among the divinities forced to exist, incidentally.
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« Reply #9820 on: March 06, 2016, 10:19:24 pm »

i'd say molag bal is pretty bad. I mean on the one hand:
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But on the other hand, he plans in ESO to destroy the Towers for some ungodly reason (the only actual source of this is some random-ass raid boss who says outright that Molag Bal plans to destroy the Towers, but she doesn't seem to know why).

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« Reply #9821 on: March 09, 2016, 05:09:43 am »

My Dunmer emperor of Ald-Cyrod has led the successful invasion of Argonia and purging of those who hold faith in the Old Gods and Hagraven Cults. After a period of rebuilding and extended peace after so much bloodshed, Emperor Caligula led his forces into his native lands. It was during this war that a victim of some plague grabbed all up on him, and though the servants who burned the clothes died of said plague, Caligula did not.

He was, instead, granted Immortality.

So the first Dunmer Emperor is an Immortal with Nordic, Dumner, and Chimer lineages sprouting out beneath him. There was also an Orc adventurer that Caligula bested, then decided to make a landed noble out of anyway, on his terms. All dude had to do was ask.

EDIT: Oh, and the Immortality event came after Caligula drank one of his son's potions that granted him both Tall and Agile. I'm gonna be so sad when he gets assassinated like most of his family.

EDIT EDIT: Just saw that he very recently turned 100 too. Best birthday ever.

EDIT EDIT EDIT: That Orc I brought in got a claim for the throne of Orsinium, so now the Orsimer have been pulled into the empire.
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« Reply #9822 on: March 09, 2016, 12:34:28 pm »

i didn't feel like mentioning that he was the king of rape because it's... literally his title

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« Reply #9823 on: March 09, 2016, 02:18:17 pm »

There's a bit of a difference between talking about him being the King of Rape and talking about the act of violating women so much that they become bloodsucking nocturnal parasites.

I don't mean that in the "One is much worse!" kind of "bit of a difference" but I mean only in the literal sense: He was talking about a particular subset of the Kings... tasks.
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« Reply #9824 on: March 09, 2016, 02:24:08 pm »

I assumed his title referred to figurative rape, in fact I think it does?  I didn't know he did the physical act also.
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