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Re: Crusader Kings 2 is released.
« Reply #5010 on: February 16, 2014, 07:05:57 pm »

The inheritance chance is easily moddable for individual traits.
And the inheritance chance varies between the traits. Most have a 15% chance of being inherited, with dwarf and inbred having 25% and ugly being 10%. It doesn't say if it is more likely for the trait to be passed on if both parents have it.

Found in /commons/crusader kings 2/common/traits/00_traits.txt

This is fabulous news. Simply up the values to more appropriate values (50% per person?) and then kaboom, Dwarf Fortress.

Would probably be imba if you did that for Quick and Genius though.
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« Reply #5011 on: February 16, 2014, 07:09:21 pm »

Now I want to turn that to 100% and play a game of hunting down the non-dwarves until the whole world is a dwarf. I might write a program that calculate dwarf %age in the whole population.
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« Reply #5012 on: February 16, 2014, 07:48:13 pm »

The game is coded so that no family can go extinct. Even if you just killed non dwarf in the world, the game will magically create people to fill the gaps of the people you've killed. You need at least 1 dwarf for every single family tree in the game so that they can be the head of the house.

You'd also have to remove every single instance of the tall gene, as it overrides dwarf.

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« Reply #5013 on: February 16, 2014, 08:00:02 pm »

I was under the impression it would generate new families with random coats of arms, but already existing families like the Karlings could go extinct.
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« Reply #5014 on: February 16, 2014, 08:34:58 pm »

I was under the impression it would generate new families with random coats of arms, but already existing families like the Karlings could go extinct.

+1

Also it's a bit annoying how as you 'create' barons tons of "de X" families pop up. I usually play as Wales and change them all to "af X".
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« Reply #5015 on: February 16, 2014, 08:54:03 pm »

I was under the impression it would generate new families with random coats of arms, but already existing families like the Karlings could go extinct.

+1

Also it's a bit annoying how as you 'create' barons tons of "de X" families pop up. I usually play as Wales and change them all to "af X".
Hm, that depends on their culture. Anglo/English will get X 'of Essex', etc, Franks 'de Normandie', etc. Unless you're Norman/Frank/Occitan, there shouldn't be 'de'.
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« Reply #5016 on: February 16, 2014, 09:17:51 pm »

I was under the impression it would generate new families with random coats of arms, but already existing families like the Karlings could go extinct.

+1

Also it's a bit annoying how as you 'create' barons tons of "de X" families pop up. I usually play as Wales and change them all to "af X".
That's how welsh last names work in CK2 for whatever reason. I never understood it, myself.
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« Reply #5017 on: February 16, 2014, 09:56:14 pm »

I was under the impression it would generate new families with random coats of arms, but already existing families like the Karlings could go extinct.
Nah.

Go into a random game.

Console kill every single member of the Karling line.

When you unpause there will be new, random Karlings spawning out of thin air.

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« Reply #5018 on: February 16, 2014, 10:42:29 pm »

Go into a random game.

Console kill every single member of the Karling line.

When you unpause there will be new, random Karlings spawning out of thin air.

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« Reply #5019 on: February 16, 2014, 10:51:28 pm »

I think smaller families can be killed off, form my small "cleansing" I did one game I think related families can promote from smaller cadet branches to the main branch if it's killed off.
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« Reply #5020 on: February 17, 2014, 05:05:43 pm »

A quick (in-game) question to which I really should already know the answer:

I'm a Norse count, entirely independent (started in Vestisland).  I have invaded and taken over Austisland, with an eye to creating the Duchy of Iceland (obviously).  However, I fear that my current character will die before I can scrape together the funds to make this happen.

I have many, many children.  The two county titles are due to be split one each between my heir (who I like) and his marginally younger brother (who's okay).

Question: if my current character dies before creating the Iceland title, presumably this means that I start playing as my heir and the country of Austisland will go its merry way with my brother...i.e. leaving me pretty much in the position that my father was when I started this game, as I then won't have sufficient counties to form Iceland.  Correct?  Or will my brother automatically become my vassal?  I'm assuming not, as I'm not inheriting any duke-level titles.

Followup question: assuming I'm correct in my above expectations, what can I do to best avoid this setback?  Killing the pretender via plot before my current character's death is unlikely to work, as there are many, many other sons waiting in the wings.
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« Reply #5021 on: February 17, 2014, 05:09:08 pm »

Your brother will get the county and you revert to the original start yes. You can only get both if you manage to obtain the dukedom.

Basically you need money. There's lots of ways to do this, here's some:

1. Imprison and banish vassals. You get lots of gold.
2. Fight wars and win. Sell off hostages and get money from successful sieges.
3. Become Christian somehow and take a loan.
4. Prostitute your children and collect dowry.
6. Put your money councillor on collecting taxes. He increases general tax revenue and there's a small chance every month that he'll gift you a large sum of cash.
7. Set your spy on collecting info on nobles. If you're lucky you can get them to bribe you to shut up about their secrets.
8. Do viking things and raid other countries.

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« Reply #5022 on: February 17, 2014, 05:09:36 pm »

Interesting enough, I believe I have a free copy of the game via a gaming magazine for anyone to grab...
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« Reply #5023 on: February 17, 2014, 05:12:07 pm »

Your brother won't become your vassal because you're both counts and vassals need to be lower ranked than their liege.

Might I suggest that you go loot someone else's castle to gain the funds?  Or banish your own vassals if you don't find that too gamey.
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« Reply #5024 on: February 17, 2014, 05:29:44 pm »

Your brother will get the county and you revert to the original start yes. You can only get both if you manage to obtain the dukedom.

Drat, thought that'd be the case - but thanks for confirming!

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Basically you need money. There's lots of ways to do this, here's some:

1. Imprison and banish vassals. You get lots of gold.
        Sadly I have no vassals - I have two counties, each with just one castle, both of which I hold.
2. Fight wars and win. Sell off hostages and get money from successful sieges.
        Sounds like a plan, although my troops are taking a long, long while to reinforce.  My marshall's working on it, though.
3. Become Christian somehow and take a loan.
        I shall never bow to the infidels!   :P
4. Prostitute your children and collect dowry.
        Wait, how does this work?  Simply marrying off my sons elsewhere?  They're all around age 3 or 4, so that might be a longer-term strategy.
6. Put your money councillor on collecting taxes. He increases general tax revenue and there's a small chance every month that he'll gift you a large sum of cash.
        Already done - and while he's good, he's sadly not that good!
7. Set your spy on collecting info on nobles. If you're lucky you can get them to bribe you to shut up about their secrets.
        Hmm, might be worth a shot - assuming it works on other countries' nobles?  I have none of my own.
8. Do viking things and raid other countries.
        On it - might be able to get a few solid raids in (again) before I shuffle off this mortal coil!

Failing all that, hey, at least I'll have a family member (and a strong claim) in Austisland!
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