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Re: Crusader Kings 2 is released.
« Reply #3600 on: June 28, 2013, 11:41:23 am »

Try marrying into England. Then fabricate claims in Scotland or something.

This made me realize I haven't played as a Christian in ages :P.
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« Reply #3601 on: June 28, 2013, 11:53:59 am »

Me neither. It's kinda weird though that Catholicism is inferior in to a reformed religion. I wish there some sort of incentive, but maybe we'll get that with a papacy dlc.
In my game, the catholics are getting eaten alive by the Tengri (reformed), the Sunni, and the Norse are still Norse, not converted. The King of Denmark converted, but he got assassinated in less than a year, and his heir was Norse. I wanted to convert at one point, but couldn't say goodbye to that sweet +40% retinues (+ levies, but that's not as fun). The only catholic controlled place left is East Francia, Lotharingia, and Italy.
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« Reply #3602 on: June 28, 2013, 11:55:28 am »

What the Dutchling said. You can also try taking Wales, which hopefully haven't united into a kingdom yet. Or the small duchies and counties of Brittany. Or Shi]etlands, which are hopefully independent. Or some petty kingdoms with no allies in Spain anywhere. There's a mighty shiteton of places you can conquer, just gotta look for them.

Also, what year is it, PanH? Sounds like some happy fun time you're having there :P

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« Reply #3603 on: June 28, 2013, 12:18:18 pm »

Oh yeah. I probably should have mentioned that I derped and started pre-Stamford. So the situation is that Norway conquered England, and I would technically have a claim on it - but a) it would involve fighting Norway, which is pretty darn big, b) English nobles started to carve out their independent realms again, most notably Lancastrians.

Due to that, I was thinking more about what direction should I try to expand in, but it seems British Isles in general wins by a huge margin, yes?
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« Reply #3604 on: June 28, 2013, 12:31:30 pm »

950 or so. There was a time when the Ummayyad controlled from Mali to the Sheikdom of Normandie  :P, but another sunni sultanate arised, and took Mali, Mauritania and even Andalusia from the Ummayyad. But I don't think I'll continue this save, I'm a bit too powerful (went from duke of Brittany to King of England, with invasion + subjugation and Sweden with a claim in a single ruler, thanks to my wife being Queen of Denmark), and I'm only 35. I'm already kinda overkill.

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If Norway is still Norse, you could launch a Holy war for England, and call some of the bigger catholic kingdoms, though it's not guaranteed they'll come, even if they agree (AI is afraid of water). Is there some Holy orders already ? Norway, while big, is still pretty poor, and there's rarely more than 3 holdings in a county (1 county + 2 barony). Plus, if I remember, Ireland is quite prone to being raided by pesky Norses, so that would be a payback.
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« Reply #3605 on: June 28, 2013, 04:14:49 pm »

950 or so. There was a time when the Ummayyad controlled from Mali to the Sheikdom of Normandie  :P, but another sunni sultanate arised, and took Mali, Mauritania and even Andalusia from the Ummayyad. But I don't think I'll continue this save, I'm a bit too powerful (went from duke of Brittany to King of England, with invasion + subjugation and Sweden with a claim in a single ruler, thanks to my wife being Queen of Denmark), and I'm only 35. I'm already kinda overkill.

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If Norway is still Norse, you could launch a Holy war for England, and call some of the bigger catholic kingdoms, though it's not guaranteed they'll come, even if they agree (AI is afraid of water). Is there some Holy orders already ? Norway, while big, is still pretty poor, and there's rarely more than 3 holdings in a county (1 county + 2 barony). Plus, if I remember, Ireland is quite prone to being raided by pesky Norses, so that would be a payback.
You could try to take on the Umayyad and take Europe back. Or select another character in the same save and play as that one.
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« Reply #3606 on: June 28, 2013, 04:45:58 pm »

Well, since the Ummayyad have lost Andalusia, it says that I have more potential soldiers than them. The only realm that is more powerful than me atm is the Arabian Empire.
Plus, I'm unreformed norse, so my only CB on the Ummayyad is Conquest, and I'd need to transport my levies from Sweden and England to France for each conquest ...

I think I'll start again with the same dynasty, the Chief of Nantes, af Haestein (or something like that), but this time maybe converting to catholicism, or forming the kingdom of France. I think playing something bigger than a kingdom can be boring (lots of tedious stuff), so I'll try to limit myself (Gavelkind, giving kingdom, etc). I just wish there was another religion I could have, since Norse is impossible to reform from France (and I don't want to conquer stuff far away), and christian religions are a bit bland, and with no advantage/different strategies, with TOG that introduced fun religions.
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« Reply #3607 on: June 28, 2013, 06:27:56 pm »

Well, since the Ummayyad have lost Andalusia, it says that I have more potential soldiers than them. The only realm that is more powerful than me atm is the Arabian Empire.
Plus, I'm unreformed norse, so my only CB on the Ummayyad is Conquest, and I'd need to transport my levies from Sweden and England to France for each conquest ...

I think I'll start again with the same dynasty, the Chief of Nantes, af Haestein (or something like that), but this time maybe converting to catholicism, or forming the kingdom of France. I think playing something bigger than a kingdom can be boring (lots of tedious stuff), so I'll try to limit myself (Gavelkind, giving kingdom, etc). I just wish there was another religion I could have, since Norse is impossible to reform from France (and I don't want to conquer stuff far away), and christian religions are a bit bland, and with no advantage/different strategies, with TOG that introduced fun religions.
Well, you can simply conquer any 3 holy sites, reform, and then give the counts there independance.
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« Reply #3608 on: June 29, 2013, 08:37:44 am »

I got a question how would one cause a massive Shia empire that spans most of the Middle east and Africa to collapse permanently, they can bring out about forty thousand soldiers to combat a crusade while fight ten different civil wars and four invasions. what tactics would you recommend?
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« Reply #3609 on: June 29, 2013, 08:46:45 am »

1) Get ruler with very high diplomacy
2) Invite Shia adult
3) Get daughter or niece educated by said Shia and wait until she converts
4) Marry Shia relative to someone unlanded and relative high on the Shia succession order
5) Invite Shia relative, and thus her husband as well
6) Convert the dude
(bonus): kill his wife and matri-marry him to another relative
7) Kill enough people to make him inherit.

Might work :P
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« Reply #3610 on: June 29, 2013, 09:50:26 am »

about forty thousand soldiers
You're lucky.
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« Reply #3611 on: June 29, 2013, 10:46:59 am »

With my vassals conquering more land north (and shooting the myaphisite faith in both feet because they lost half the holy wars they started), I realized I had almost enough land to create the empire of tartaria. I conquered a couple more and started to educate one of my daughters with a bolghar guy, to have an altaic group character to form said empire.

My vassals absolutely hated it. Not specifically in relation score (I had high enough diplo and long reign bonus to offset the "heir educated with rrrrong culture" and "female heir" penalties) but they never, ever voted for her as my successor (I'm using elective monarchy).

They started to vote for some of my cousin or nephew or whatnot. I realised I couldn't sway them, after spending almost 6000 gold pieces to gift all the realm, getting high relation with all my major dukes(90-100 !), they would not change their vote.

So, I murdered him. They voted for his cousin or nephew or something (still my dynasty). Fine ! I murdered him too. Then they chose a random count from my realm, out of my dynasty, really popular apparently, since every single duke voted for him. Sure, why not ? Murdered him.

A less unanimous vote then designed different dukes as heirs to my different kingdoms. So I....murdered them.

And then they elected a retarded,backwater,60 years old childless great-great-aunt from some far-off branch of my dynasty.

My plan was then to murder my elected successors as they came up, hoping that my ruler (78 years old at that time) would die before the survivors recast their vote, hence getting my bolghar-educated daughter elected with my only vote. I even started wars for the sake of putting him in command of 500 men that i'd send against thousands strong ennemy stacks, hoping they'd kill him (he managed to recover from one wound and two illnesses and would later die a peaceful and natural death).

Oh, fuck it, I thought. You won't choose my decently-educated,genius,good-traited daughter just because she's under 16 and foreign-educated, and instead absurdely choose that old hag ? but that's for the good of the realm, you morons !

But by that point I had spent almost as much money on murdering my vassals as I had first to buy them, and I was starting to have pretty bad relation penalties(dishonorable,murdered my kin, murdered my close kin) with many of them for some of the discovered murders. ( and money spent on assassination is "wasted", contrary to the money gifted to your vassals that end up overall improving your realm). I had to change my strategy. Fast.


So I tried something crazy : I revoked every single elector title in my realm. ALL OF THEM. I found myself with something like -300 relation malus for revoking vassals titles. All the realm hated me, but it worked ! they didn't rebel ! not a single one ! (but they created about 16 factions). I had mobilized all the levies of the realm before I started, in the idea that mobilized troops wouldn't be counted as available troops by my vassals, don't know if it mattered.

finally, my old ruler blessed me with his long-awaited death, the bolghar daughter inherited, I redistributed all the duke title to their former holders, I had to start yet again a few wars to accumulate piety and create the empire title, and she was still young enough that I had time to change her guardian and revert her back to original culture.

Phew. Now all is well in the Miaphysite Armenian Elective Empire of Tartaria. Except we're a bit poor.

Shame, we'd could really have used the money ,to rebuild all the level IV cultural buildings that were destroyed in my nine personnal provinces since I briefly had a ruler of another culture group :/ .
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« Reply #3612 on: June 29, 2013, 10:53:19 am »

I would have just changed a single line of code instead :P
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« Reply #3613 on: June 29, 2013, 11:10:52 am »

I considered that at some point  :P , but i didn't knew how to do it, and I was halfway into it already, so...
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« Reply #3614 on: June 29, 2013, 12:48:09 pm »

commons/landed titles.txt

ctrl + [f]ind E_tartaria

allow_culture = Altaic

delete that line.

boom, now anyone can create it.
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