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Re: Crusader Kings 2 is released.
« Reply #1140 on: June 16, 2012, 09:42:21 pm »

I'm not a big fan of offing my wives, honestly. I enjoy playing characters that aren't murderous psychopaths.
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« Reply #1141 on: June 16, 2012, 09:44:09 pm »

but what if your wife is evil and you are doing history a favor by offing her?
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« Reply #1142 on: June 16, 2012, 10:53:31 pm »

I'm not a big fan of offing my wives, honestly. I enjoy playing characters that aren't murderous psychopaths.

So you hate dwarf fortress?

EDIT: Why would you play a game where you AREN'T a murderous psychopath??? passive-aggressive mass effect??? COD without shooting??? DF2012 without dwarves??? c'mon...
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« Reply #1143 on: June 17, 2012, 01:11:53 am »

I'm facing a horrible issue in my current game. The kingdom of Ireland has expanded to take over Brittany, Wales, 1/4 of England and 1/3 of Scotland. In the year of our Lord 1184, the Queen of Ireland died. In the year of our Lord 1185, out of the 46 counties of the Kingdom, only 6 were controlled by the King, and the other 40 were rebelling. Seeing as how I had about 4000 gold in the treasury, I hired ALL the mercenaries and squashed the rebellions and the succession crises. My issue... is what the hell do I do now? I have 46 counties under my control, so I am making absolutely no income. At the same time, EVERYONE in my court hates my guts. If I gave out any titles they would rebel. Am I just up shit creak without a paddle?
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« Reply #1144 on: June 17, 2012, 01:35:02 am »

If you have the power to quash them Rebellions can be a great thing. Once a vassal rebels you can strip him of his titles and give them to someone who likes you or force them into a 10 year truce.

Often one of the best things to do if a whole bunch of people hate you is to just die, that's if you have a legal heir people prefer. There's various ways to do this, but leading battles generally kills you off pretty quick.
You could hand out some of those titles to the Pope or Holy Orders if you need some piety, that should also get you a tiny bit of income. If you ahve any over sea allies you could hand some titles out to them so they have more of a reason to join you in battle. 

Apart from that I'm not really sure.
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« Reply #1145 on: June 17, 2012, 01:37:58 am »

Take all the bishoprics, cities, everything. Then, when literally every single Irish holding is in your control (NOT before, if before everything, some vassals will still hate you) right click on the minor holdings in each country, and click on the lower-left part of the triangle to create a character to control that holding. Since he will be a clean slate, he won't have the tyranny penalty on you.

That should clean up your vassals. Then, give out a bunch of the counties to either cities or bishops in those counties (click on the shield on the minor holding, then click on the character portrait on the bottom of the screen, then click on the diplomacy button, and grant them the county they reside in)

If you want, you can give out the duchies too.

The end result? Your court hates you, but every single vassal will either like or dislike you. It's a clean slate. They have no tyranny penalty, just the normal pluses and minuses in vassal relationships, with a possible starting boost to the counts since you gave them land (they might desire the duchy, though, which will give them a malus. You can give the duchy to a count, it'll make them more powerful, yes, but you only have to control 10 or so dukes instead of 40 counts)

That will take a lot of clicking, but it's worth it. I've done it a few times, once or twice.
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Re: Crusader Kings 2 is released.
« Reply #1146 on: June 17, 2012, 01:37:59 am »

I want to give out titles to vassals, but everyone I have in my court I would hand them out to hates me. I don't want to give stuff away to the pope, and I have no allies. Basically what I am asking is, is there a way to get a huge influx of people into my court that don't hate me?
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« Reply #1147 on: June 17, 2012, 01:40:29 am »

I want to give out titles to vassals, but everyone I have in my court I would hand them out to hates me. I don't want to give stuff away to the pope, and I have no allies. Basically what I am asking is, is there a way to get a huge influx of people into my court that don't hate me?
Yes, read what I said in detail.

If you want to clean your court, get rid of the vassals, and kill everyone in your court, but that's way more risky. You could imprison and banish them, but that MIGHT have a foreign-diplomacy malus. Not sure.

Regardless, make sure EVERYONE you want gone is GONE before you start creating new nobles/bishops/mayors * or else you'll still have some tyranny hate.

*(you can create nobles and invite holy men via the intrigue screen to fill out your court if you imprison+banish, but it's either 5 piety or a few months [1? 2?] of gold income each to invite them that way. Right click -> create new vassal is free AFAIK)
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Re: Crusader Kings 2 is released.
« Reply #1148 on: June 17, 2012, 01:42:21 am »

You can invite noblemen/holymen to your court through the intrige tab. For a modest amount of gold/piety. They should come to your court and start off neutral. If you're holding a whole bunch of titles though that won't last too long. So you'll have to hand out all those titles quick.

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« Reply #1149 on: June 17, 2012, 02:22:56 am »

Eh I didn't see your post before posting myself Descan. I will do that, seems like it'll work out nicely.
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« Reply #1150 on: June 17, 2012, 02:27:16 am »

I know, I'm just making sure you knew it was there. <3
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« Reply #1151 on: June 17, 2012, 03:15:25 am »

How did you manage to make your entire court hate your guts? O_o
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« Reply #1152 on: June 17, 2012, 03:20:10 am »

I'm no expert, but my guess is Tyranny?
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« Reply #1153 on: June 17, 2012, 03:23:03 am »

What, you mean like executing people and stuff? That only drops landed vassal relations, doesn't it?
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« Reply #1154 on: June 17, 2012, 03:42:05 am »

So you hate dwarf fortress?

EDIT: Why would you play a game where you AREN'T a murderous psychopath??? passive-aggressive mass effect??? COD without shooting??? DF2012 without dwarves??? c'mon...

Not sure if trolling or trying to tell people how they should play a Freeform game.

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