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Re: Crusader Kings 2 is released.
« Reply #10680 on: August 06, 2016, 06:27:54 pm »

Also he was a nomad, so that means horse archers. Light cavalry can also be nightmarish if the flank has only LC. They get some awesome tactics then.
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« Reply #10681 on: August 06, 2016, 06:32:19 pm »

one flank, usually the center one.
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« Reply #10682 on: August 06, 2016, 06:35:10 pm »

one flank, usually the center one.
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The game treats it like a flank, though.
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« Reply #10683 on: August 06, 2016, 06:59:05 pm »

You got your left flank, a right flank, the middle flank, flank kebabs, flank creole, flank gumbo, pan-fried, deep-fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple flank, lemon flank, coconut flank, pepper flank. Flank soup, flank stew, flank salad, flank in potatoes, flank burger, flank sandwich...that's, that's about it.
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« Reply #10684 on: August 06, 2016, 07:09:28 pm »

You got your left flank, a right flank, the middle flank, flank kebabs, flank creole, flank gumbo, pan-fried, deep-fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple flank, lemon flank, coconut flank, pepper flank. Flank soup, flank stew, flank salad, flank in potatoes, flank burger, flank sandwich...that's, that's about it.
Nah, you forgot seduction flank.
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« Reply #10685 on: August 06, 2016, 07:18:54 pm »

You got your left flank, a right flank, the middle flank, flank kebabs, flank creole, flank gumbo, pan-fried, deep-fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple flank, lemon flank, coconut flank, pepper flank. Flank soup, flank stew, flank salad, flank in potatoes, flank burger, flank sandwich...that's, that's about it.
Nah, you forgot seduction flank.
The most important flank, critical for keeping your sisters from plotting against you.
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« Reply #10686 on: August 06, 2016, 07:29:54 pm »

And yet everyone still gets flanked by the Spanish Inquisition.
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« Reply #10687 on: August 06, 2016, 07:56:39 pm »

NOBODY EXPECTS THE PORTUGESE INQUISITION!
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« Reply #10688 on: August 06, 2016, 09:44:14 pm »

that's because Portugal never forms
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« Reply #10689 on: August 06, 2016, 09:45:05 pm »

that's because Portugal never forms
Literally never.
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« Reply #10690 on: August 07, 2016, 02:10:44 am »

Well to go into more detail my center had more men, more Heavy Infantry (Thank you varingian guard :) ) more Heavy cavalry, and was really only lacking in terms of light cavalry. I made sure my generals did not have negative morale bonuses, and both my flanks were holding against there's. Even with all that, assuming I was attacking into mountains across a river, I just don't see how it's reasonable to make such a significant drop in morale happen.
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« Reply #10691 on: August 07, 2016, 09:30:30 am »

Well to go into more detail my center had more men, more Heavy Infantry (Thank you varingian guard :) ) more Heavy cavalry, and was really only lacking in terms of light cavalry. I made sure my generals did not have negative morale bonuses, and both my flanks were holding against there's. Even with all that, assuming I was attacking into mountains across a river, I just don't see how it's reasonable to make such a significant drop in morale happen.
Who were you fighting? What was their army comp?
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« Reply #10692 on: August 07, 2016, 07:19:54 pm »

Well to go into more detail my center had more men, more Heavy Infantry (Thank you varingian guard :) ) more Heavy cavalry, and was really only lacking in terms of light cavalry. I made sure my generals did not have negative morale bonuses, and both my flanks were holding against there's. Even with all that, assuming I was attacking into mountains across a river, I just don't see how it's reasonable to make such a significant drop in morale happen.
Who were you fighting? What was their army comp?

The Muslim empire just east of Byzantium. Their special unit was camel cavalry. I recall them having 300+ to my 200+ horse archers. The others you should be able to get a rough estimate from what I already said.

Also, why would it matter? My retinue was all special units and I hired heavy infantry mercenaries and had more heavy infantry and units overall. I like to watch all my battle play out slowly and I don't recall massive routes like this happening in balanced fights.
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« Reply #10693 on: August 07, 2016, 08:36:53 pm »

How soon before the combat did you hire the mercs?

When first hired, mercenaies have a morale level of 0.

Also, camel cavalry are weaker at skirmish and pursue than light cavalry or horse archers, but much MUCH better in melee (equivalent to heavy infantry on the attack).

Tactics could have been at play as well -- Byzantines are won to use the Embolon Charge Formation, which boosts heavy cavalry, but greatly weakens heavy infantry.
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« Reply #10694 on: August 07, 2016, 10:59:42 pm »

one flank, usually the center one.
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