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[Errol]

I was fine with the city building aspect. I assume we're going to adventuring, but our cities will run in the background, without so much micromanagement? Or maybe we get *two* sets of orders-managing our villages, and managing our personal actions?

 Failing that, a straight up adventurer RTD is fine, though I didn't exactly design my character for that lol

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[Humaan]

Start a regular training routine of 1 hour every day for combat. Appoint the best warrior as leader of my militia.

[Nirur Torir]

I've been thinking. This game, as it stands, won't work - Governable bodies have two stats, which vary with time. Actions boil down to "Increase prosperity" and "Increase military strength." Adventuring is possible, sure, but really, why do that when you could just be working to conquer a city, and use the funds to buy a full set of plate-mail?

I have a few fixes in mind, which should change things for the better. Either way, I intend to make a magic system similar to Arcanum Octet's. Player slots are already filled.

Proposed system 1:
Two kings, each with three heroes, for a total of eight players. Tax comes in every five turns, and all shops and industries are controlled directly by the king. The kings will want to balance spending between upgrading adventurer equipment and <REDACTED>. Kings may go adventuring, of course.

Proposed system 2: Eight players will pick whichever specialty they like, and be whatever. Governors trying to attract adventurers and their gold, adventurers, whatever. It would be reasonably similar to what we've got now.

Discuss.

[Knight Otu]

It's an RTD. If we do something boring, hit us with a Bored GM penalty.

Seriously, both systems sound good. But I'd like to be able to both lead and go adventuring, and only system 1 says anything about, so I guess that's where my vote should go.

[Dwarmin]

I vote for number 1

Two kings/six champs instead of eight of each seems great to me. Like, really great.

[Jiharo]

Seriously, both systems sound good.

*Jumping on vote 1 bandwagon.*

[Humaan]

Seriously, both systems sound good.

*Jumping on vote 1 bandwagon.*

[Nirur Torir]

System 1 wins. I expect to have something up after doing the turn for Planetfall, hopefully a few days from now. First two players (already in the game) to claim governor spots get them. (I lied about the king spots.)

[Dwarmin]

I'll claim a spot as a governor then. Too bad you had to dash my hopes of making a throne of skulls. Governor's don't even *get* thrones!

[Nirur Torir]

You may sit wherever you like.

[Errol]

I'd be an adventurer then. It totally clashes with the character I created... which is why I want to do it.

[Knight Otu]

Mhh, I'll take governor, I think.

[Nirur Torir]

The game has been completely revised. There are now 2 governors, and 8 heroes. Each governor gets 4 heroes. This should be a bit like a more in-depth Majesty, with the ability for the governors to adventure as well.

Spoiler: Backstory (click to show/hide)

There is a land bridge to the southern continent. It is a wild and savage land, with primitive and brutal cultures. The king of Riverview, in his infinite wisdom, decided to expand his kingdom southwards, as everywhere else is already occupied by civilized people who would likely beat Riverview in a war. His advisers have pinpointed two sites along the coast which act as natural choke-points, one on either side of a mountain, and both along a river. Nothing larger then a small force would likely be able to get over the mountain, and cities at these points would make perfect buffers for the rest of the empire. While geography experts head for the mountain to study this odd phenomenon, the chancellor prepares a pair of expeditions.

As the kingdom is the poorest in the known world, they will be given very little, and must trade local wealth for what they need. Eight adventurers have "volunteered" for the journey.

Spoiler: Dice Rules (click to show/hide)

A D20 system will be used.

Spoiler: For Governors (click to show/hide)

You will each start with 45 citizens of your choice, along with yourself and the four heroes. You will be able to do whatever you wish in a turn, and assign citizens to work in fields you choose.

Generally, citizens may be skilled in anything likely for a uneducated citizens in a high-fantasy late-medieval style era. Educated citizenry may be trained or imported later. You do start with 3 educated citizens, so choose their jobs wisely. Examples of uneducated skills are: Farmer, craftsmen, and soldiers. Examples of educated citizens are scholars [researchers], wizards, and overseers[improve unskilled laborers they're assigned to].

The 42 unskilled laborers each have a +1, while the 3 skilled laborers each have three +1s. Please assign them their initial jobs.

Most citizens provide a base of 2(job points), plus 1 per level. Overseers improve this bonus by +1 per level of both overseer and [skill]. They'll need level 2 overseer and level 2 lumberjack to boost the bonus by +2. Each overseer may work over a max of 10 people.

The standard tax rate is 2 coins/5 turns per citizen. Taxes may be increased or decreased, depending on your morale. Morale affects immigration, and is increased by bigger houses, luxury goods, and various other things.

A standard wood structure costs 5 wood or stone to build, and takes 10 or 20 construction points, respectively. A "standard" house size is 5, and allows 2 people to live comfortably. You can shove more in, if you don't care about the decreased morale.

Magic is not uncommon, but there is only one institution for the study of magic in the kingdom at present. It is a poor kingdom, after-all.

Metallurgy technology includes primitive steel making. Gun technology is limited to muzzle-loaded matchlock Arquebuses.

Spoiler: For Heroes (click to show/hide)

When making a hero, I want the following:
Name:
Description/Race/Backstory: Six +1 points for general stats are available. I believe that you shouldn't need to be an elf to get that +1 magic bonus, or a dwarf for that +1 constitution bonus. They may be stacked.
Disadvantage: Three -1 points, or one -2 point. These are in general stats, such as -1 constitution. They may be stacked, or used to negate a racial/back-story bonus.
Skills: Describe what you want out of them. If you pick enchanting magic, for example, I want to know if you want long-term spells to make magic swords but take a while to cast, or combat-castable buffs.
You may stack these, but a level 3 skill will take all 4 points.
Starting items: Three items which each grant a +1 bonus, along with the other items that may be important to your character. Clothing is generally considered to be important.
Reason for joining the expedition:
Which governor you'll side with, or random:

Stats:
Strength - Makes you hit harder, and helps tasks like lifting large stones
Agility - Makes you dodge better, and helps with tasks like acrobatics or sneaking
Dexterity - Makes you hit more accurately, and helps with tasks like picking locks
Constitution - Increases HP and helps with tasks like shrugging off poison
Intelligence - Helps with studying, many tasks in town, and communication
Spirituality - Increases mana and mana regenerated while resting
Power - Increases magical damage and the general strength of spells
Magical Finesse - Increases the success rate and accuracy of spells

Skills:
Be creative here, but describe what you want the skill to do. Each level increases the xp requirement by 10 points.

Spells:
You may cast a spell you don't know, but it carries a penalty if you're trying to create a spell while fighting.

Game is already full.

[HailFire]

Reserved for character post (everyone who's in needs to repost a character with the new stats and either as a hero or a governor- I'm taking a hero)

[wolfchild]

ok nurir posting a hero (please ignore me if i misunderstood the PM)

Name: Saun
Description/Race/Backstory: (do we assign the points or do you from the backstory?); Saun is a silver scaled dragonkin, who has grown tired of his race's destructive way's, and has thrown his lot in with (Govanor name here), he learned quikly that destruction was still needed, but fortunately not wonton destruction like before. He shares his kind's natural affinity for fire but always thought a bit outside the box, this caused him to learn mechanics, which may be another reason he left (materials for that type of thing are easier to find in cities)
Disadvantage: -2 Agility
Skills: Fire magic - up to being able to send waves of fire (in person), mechanics (like making a repeating crossbow)
Starting items: Fire opal focus, Toolkit, Key to a workshop, Wrap like clothes, 3 silver bands on tail
Reason for joining the expedition: in backstory, that and wont sit on teh sidelines
Which governor you'll side with, or random: want to see who the goveanors are 1st

Spells: (do we decide this now?)