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[RF]

I'm about 3/4ths of the way through it at this point, and I think it was a worthwhile purchase for 12$. I wasn't ever really going into this expecting a Populace or Black & White remake, and I think that's the issue most of the people who play this are having: They want From Dust to be a game that it isn't, and for that they hate it.

Maybe because every single developer diary etc was making it out to be a game it isn't?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I'm about 3/4ths of the way through it at this point, and I think it was a worthwhile purchase for 12$. I wasn't ever really going into this expecting a Populace or Black & White remake, and I think that's the issue most of the people who play this are having: They want From Dust to be a game that it isn't, and for that they hate it.

Maybe because every single developer diary etc was making it out to be a game it isn't?

Unless there was a written developer diary I didn't hear about, the video ones didn't really imply it to be anything other than it was, at least not to me.

[lordcooper]

I'm about 3/4ths of the way through it at this point, and I think it was a worthwhile purchase for 12$. I wasn't ever really going into this expecting a Populace or Black & White remake, and I think that's the issue most of the people who play this are having: They want From Dust to be a game that it isn't, and for that they hate it.

Maybe because every single developer diary etc was making it out to be a game it isn't?

Unless there was a written developer diary I didn't hear about, the video ones didn't really imply it to be anything other than it was, at least not to me.

I haven't played the game yet, but will definitely be purchasing it on the PS3 release date.  Even after seeing the real gameplay I'm still pretty excited about it.

That said, the dev diarys did imply that it would be on a much greater scale.  They also didn't mention 'fixed' events like the water rising every x minutes.

[Johnfalcon99977]

I tried the game, and its fairly cool. I like the graphics. I only have two problems with the game:

1. The villagers have shit pathfinding at times.
2. The story is very vague in till you start getting really into the game.

I think one is most likely justified because you have a constantly changing landscape. Two is also forgivable, because I think the game has a nice story.

[lordcooper]

Does it get sandboxy at any point?

[Fikes]

I'm about 3/4ths of the way through it at this point, and I think it was a worthwhile purchase for 12$. I wasn't ever really going into this expecting a Populace or Black & White remake, and I think that's the issue most of the people who play this are having: They want From Dust to be a game that it isn't, and for that they hate it.

Maybe because every single developer diary etc was making it out to be a game it isn't?

Unless there was a written developer diary I didn't hear about, the video ones didn't really imply it to be anything other than it was, at least not to me.

I haven't played the game yet, but will definitely be purchasing it on the PS3 release date.  Even after seeing the real gameplay I'm still pretty excited about it.

That said, the dev diarys did imply that it would be on a much greater scale.  They also didn't mention 'fixed' events like the water rising every x minutes.

I specifically remember them talking about the tsunami mission and saying it was a race against time. I thought there would just be one big wave, but I knew it would be scripted.

I agree everone hoped this would be Populas, but I think that is much our fault as the developers.

[forsaken1111]

Same thing happened with Spore as I recall. People made it out as something amazing in their minds and then realized it was just a big casual toy.

[Stworca]

What I wouldn't give for another Populous.

To bad Bullfrog is dead.

This, and Dungeon Keeper 3.. 

[Neonivek]

What I wouldn't give for another Populous.

To bad Bullfrog is dead.

This, and Dungeon Keeper 3.. 

Goodness and a Theme Hospital 2 (done in 2d)

[Ivefan]

Same thing happened with Spore as I recall. People made it out as something amazing in their minds and then realized it was just a big casual toy.

Nope. Ever seen the first video they released? I think 2005.
Watch it and you understand the disappointment.

[forsaken1111]

Same thing happened with Spore as I recall. People made it out as something amazing in their minds and then realized it was just a big casual toy.

Nope. Ever seen the first video they released? I think 2005.
Watch it and you understand the disappointment.

Oh I'll grant that it was overhyped by their marketing and it suffered from a bit of molyneux syndrome. I didn't mean that disappointment was unwarranted, just that some people had built it up so much in their head that they had unrealistic expectations.

[Jay]

Same thing happened with Spore as I recall. People made it out as something amazing in their minds and then realized it was just a big casual toy.

Nope. Ever seen the first video they released? I think 2005.
Watch it and you understand the disappointment.

Oh I'll grant that it was overhyped by their marketing and it suffered from a bit of molyneux syndrome. I didn't mean that disappointment was unwarranted, just that some people had built it up so much in their head that they had unrealistic expectations.

What ARE you talking about?
The original promo video showed tens if not hundreds of features that were cut from the final game.

[forsaken1111]

Same thing happened with Spore as I recall. People made it out as something amazing in their minds and then realized it was just a big casual toy.

Nope. Ever seen the first video they released? I think 2005.
Watch it and you understand the disappointment.

Oh I'll grant that it was overhyped by their marketing and it suffered from a bit of molyneux syndrome. I didn't mean that disappointment was unwarranted, just that some people had built it up so much in their head that they had unrealistic expectations.

What ARE you talking about?
The original promo video showed tens if not hundreds of features that were cut from the final game.

H'okay I didn't intend to spark a heated discussion with an offhand comment. Let's not derail this thread. You're right, I was wrong, spore was super bad.

[Neonivek]

Same thing happened with Spore as I recall. People made it out as something amazing in their minds and then realized it was just a big casual toy.

Nope. Ever seen the first video they released? I think 2005.
Watch it and you understand the disappointment.

Oh I'll grant that it was overhyped by their marketing and it suffered from a bit of molyneux syndrome. I didn't mean that disappointment was unwarranted, just that some people had built it up so much in their head that they had unrealistic expectations.

The problem in this case wasn't that Spore hyped itself up to death... In fact they systematically stated every single thing in the 2005 video was false as time went on (Even in one interview outright stating that there was no ragdoll or arm ripping and explaining why there are googly eyes on the cells). Anyone who kept up to date with all the videos, which unfortunately can be tough to keep track of, sort of realised the game was somewhat weak unless they were still hoping for some 2005 magic.
-Sadly from what I understand from that interview... Will Wright argued (and Water) in favor of a more scientific Spore but he was outvoted. Frankly it would have improved the game. SURE Spore probably would have still been a weak game but there is something about the majesty of education that can turn everything right.

The problem was that the Spore Fanbase held onto the 2005 video and wouldn't let go no matter what happened. Someone jumps in asking what Spore is about? They will show that person the 2005 video. There was nothing I could do on gameFAQs about it... As soon as someone asked it was "Hey watch this" inspite of the fact that they said the 2005 was false by 2006.

So it isn't Molyneux Syndrome in pure form. They didn't pretend the game was something it wasn't until the end and then go "Ohh yeah, it isn't in the game guys".

In Dust's case... They only really advertised the physics and by all means that is the basis in which you would buy the game. Your not going to buy it for its great gameplay... Your going to buy it because it is cool.

In fact I have to say, dust REALLY, and I mean really, doesn't try to advertise its gameplay almost at all. It just seems to be glossed over. "And get your people to safety, but did we mention you pick up DIRT!?! Yes we COULD show you saving people but we would rather show you this water physics OMG it is amazing!"

[mr. macduggan]

Wow, I just watched that 2005 spore video again, and oh my god I want to go cry now. That was so much better than the final product. The big game changer for me was that the creatures actually had to balance themselves in their walking animations, instead of the easier, but so much more cookie cutter "put a floating spine as the torso, then run the leg animations as many times as we need to have the creature move around at the speed that we've dictated that it's allowed to move" idea. They should really take another run at spore. Or, they could even just release the version that he had at that tech demo. That would be good enough. It's been so long since I saw that preview, I forgot why I was so hyped for the release. 
Anyway, from dust never pretended to have much in the way of gameplay, but also never pretended to cost much money either, so you're paying for a game that you'll get ten dollars of entertainment out of, rather like a ticket to go see a movie in a theater. It's not a fifty dollar title like Spore that promised the best gameplay ever. Grrrr...