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Fatty Limes

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they keep canceling giving water!
« on: August 17, 2010, 01:53:28 pm »

so like, half my dwarves are just repeatedly canceling giving water for no reason and refusing to work. This started happening around the time that i pulled the switch which closes off my fortress, i think. booze isnt forbidden and noone is injured. When it comes to not working, there are jobs they should be doing, but theres still 'no job'. I have an assload of stuff marked for dumping, but all my haulers show up as no job. Wtf?
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Re: they keep canceling giving water!
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2010, 01:56:12 pm »

http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=2448

Basically, your dwarves are trying to give water to noninjured dwarves who happen to be thirsty (and probably also asleep, and thus technically unable to get drinks for themselves).
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Re: they keep canceling giving water!
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2010, 02:05:22 pm »

can i fix this? what if i disable give water for everyone?
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Re: they keep canceling giving water!
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2010, 02:42:19 pm »

and now they think there isnt any food either? I'm screwed, aren't i?
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Re: they keep canceling giving water!
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2010, 03:07:06 pm »

Have you locked them out of your fortress when you closed the entrance?
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Re: they keep canceling giving water!
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2010, 03:28:16 pm »

There's a checklist you should go through
1) Is this a path to your food? (I know, I know, but you need to double-check)
2) Is it forbidden?
3) Is "Dwarves Ignore Food" checked in the options? (I made this mistake once)
4) Are they assigned to Burrows that doesn't have food in it?
5) Does throwing the switch again change the situation?
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So there's that, as well. It looks like the only chronic problems that water can't cure are nausea and cave spider bites.
Which, coincidentally enough, can be cured by magma.

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Re: they keep canceling giving water!
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2010, 05:36:11 pm »

There's a checklist you should go through
1) Is this a path to your food? (I know, I know, but you need to double-check)
2) Is it forbidden?
3) Is "Dwarves Ignore Food" checked in the options? (I made this mistake once)
4) Are they assigned to Burrows that doesn't have food in it?
5) Does throwing the switch again change the situation?

At first i thought it might be 1 or 4 until it happened to literally 75% percent of my dwarfs, and my only burrow is the WHOLE FORTRESS. Ill check three again, and ive been flipping the switch like crazy. Whatevs

losing is fun, not so much when its random bugs tho :/
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Re: they keep canceling giving water!
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2010, 05:44:09 pm »

after i make a well they'll run to drink water themselves (they arent drinking without a watersource) at which point, they fall asleep on the floor. Its weird.
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Re: they keep canceling giving water!
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2010, 07:56:33 pm »

find a door, any door

lock it then unpause for a few, then unlock it.


This resets pathing and usually fixes odd pathing issues.

If this doesnt work, maybe you have a burrow problem, try removing all burrows in that case.
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Re: they keep canceling giving water!
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2010, 08:07:31 pm »

find a door, any door

lock it then unpause for a few, then unlock it.


This resets pathing and usually fixes odd pathing issues.

If this doesnt work, maybe you have a burrow problem, try removing all burrows in that case.

Thanks for mentioning that, I forgot about that one. That should be #1, really.


There's a checklist you should go through
1) Does locking and then unlocking a door somewhere in your fortress fix it?
2) Is this a path to your food? (I know, I know, but you need to double-check)
3) Is it forbidden?
4) Is "Dwarves Ignore Food" checked in the options? (I made this mistake once)
5) Are they assigned to Burrows that doesn't have food in it?
6) Does throwing the switch again change the situation?
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So there's that, as well. It looks like the only chronic problems that water can't cure are nausea and cave spider bites.
Which, coincidentally enough, can be cured by magma.

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Re: they keep canceling giving water!
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2010, 08:17:18 pm »

if lock/unlock and deleting burrows helped, it only helped a little. Im not getting any more 'cancels give water' announcements, but i still have too many thirsty dwarves and dwarves that sleep on the floor despite an abundance of beds.

also alot still arent doing jobs. Jobless haulers, cutters, and miners despite plenty of mining, dumping and cutting designations
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Re: they keep canceling giving water!
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2010, 08:24:45 pm »

is there any way to force all my dwarves on break so they all go eat and drink without canceling whatever they are working on?
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Re: they keep canceling giving water!
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2010, 08:32:19 pm »

I can't think of a way of doing that short of cancelling every single job and designation in your fortress. And I can't think of a quick way of doing that, so I don't think you feasibly can.
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Re: they keep canceling giving water!
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2010, 08:35:11 pm »

its just so weird. this happened during winter; once the water melted, they all ran to the stream to drink, the ones who werent busy anyways. The once who are busy working continue to work despite being hungry and thirsty

edit: and now they're hunting vermin for food *facepalm*
« Last Edit: August 17, 2010, 08:39:17 pm by Fatty Limes »
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Re: they keep canceling giving water!
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2010, 09:37:09 pm »

so i did an embark reclaim and now my migrants stand at the edge of the map jobless, wtf
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