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Author Topic: And now an Ogre became mayor of my fortress...  (Read 9572 times)

Sarganto

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And now an Ogre became mayor of my fortress...
« on: August 14, 2010, 02:55:03 am »

I modded the game, to make werewolves and ogres tameable, to have them guard my front gate and...because having pet ogres and werewolves is awesome!

So now I wanted to check, if my nobles need bigger offices, more chests or whatever and notice this...





Somehow my dwarves elected a tamed (named!) ogre to be the mayor of my funny fortress in the sinister lands.

I have some theories, how this could happen.

As he is chained at my front door, every dwarf would see this guy once in a while and think about how well this ogre guy is protecting the fortress and how peaceful everything is, since he is there and shit.



The other theory is, that they introduced the voting rights for ogres. As I have 8 tamed ogres, they probably all elected their named leader guy and my dwarves didn't give a damn about the elections...

Now my problem is:
I can't assign an office and quarters to him, which he rightfully demands as a mayor. Will this give him bad thoughts?
I don't want mayor ogre with bad thoughts in my fortress...
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Re: And now an Ogre became mayor of my fortress...
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2010, 03:25:44 am »

He might get bad thoughts from this, but I don't think you'll notice. In the description you posted it doesn't show any of the good or bad thoughts you see in dwarves.

Conveniently, he's already tied up. If he can and does tantrum, you've not only got an ogre protecting the front gate, but a berserk ogre.

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Re: And now an Ogre became mayor of my fortress...
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2010, 03:31:33 am »

He might get bad thoughts from this, but I don't think you'll notice. In the description you posted it doesn't show any of the good or bad thoughts you see in dwarves.

Conveniently, he's already tied up. If he can and does tantrum, you've not only got an ogre protecting the front gate, but a berserk ogre.
Which would lead to me having to build another entrance, because my dorfs can get by mayor berzerk.
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Re: And now an Ogre became mayor of my fortress...
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2010, 03:38:00 am »

All I saw was "Stray mayor" and then this popped into my head.

Urist McChild: Mama mama!  He followed me home!  Can I keep him?
Urist McMother: No, sweety.  You know that he'll mandate all over the carpet.
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Re: And now an Ogre became mayor of my fortress...
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2010, 04:05:31 am »

All I saw was "Stray mayor" and then this popped into my head.

Urist McChild: Mama mama!  He followed me home!  Can I keep him?
Urist McMother: No, sweety.  You know that he'll mandate all over the carpet.

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Re: And now an Ogre became mayor of my fortress...
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2010, 04:12:17 am »

Urist McChild: Mama mama!  He followed me home!  Can I keep him?
Urist McMother: No, sweety.  You know that he'll mandate all over the carpet.
This would mean that mandate is an item that actually exists in DF world. Which means some noble would naturally mandate it.
Urist McNoble mandates: Mandates (3/3)
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Re: And now an Ogre became mayor of my fortress...
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2010, 04:27:21 am »

Urist McChild: Mama mama!  He followed me home!  Can I keep him?
Urist McMother: No, sweety.  You know that he'll mandate all over the carpet.
This would mean that mandate is an item that actually exists in DF world. Which means some noble would naturally mandate it.
Urist McNoble mandates: Mandates (3/3)
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Re: And now an Ogre became mayor of my fortress...
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2010, 04:31:07 am »

I right now have the outpost liaison talking with the mayor...the liaison is an elf and the mayor is an ogre.

Something is just sooooo wrong here.

All this reminds me so much of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hq-G_ZcP-A
« Last Edit: August 14, 2010, 04:39:03 am by Sarganto »
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Re: And now an Ogre became mayor of my fortress...
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2010, 08:19:42 am »

Have him eliminated, Silently at night where no one else can see. Wait untill a goblin attack and count him as a casualty.
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Re: And now an Ogre became mayor of my fortress...
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2010, 08:41:16 am »

I remember when I modded fire imps to be tameable. And made them smart so they would gain EXP and get better at spitting fireballs.

My kobolds loved them so much that they made one their leader. I don't think that leaders from other races but your own can even go unhappy. I also noticed that you're unable to place other races to your noble spots, they are listed but the moment you add 'em the spot is vacant again. Only stuff like mayor and so on where they're voted in count.

The mayor later on died in a goblin ambush, leading the soldiers personally.
Very sad.

Can't remember if there were unhappy thoughts because of it. Can't even remember if anyone had him  listed as an acquaintance or friend.
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Re: And now an Ogre became mayor of my fortress...
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2010, 09:35:37 am »

But why can they vote for an ogre as mayor in the first place? I mean, it is a TAMED OGRE!!! Next time, they probably elect a cow or a raccoon!

At least, mayor raccoon sounds like it would lead to a lot of FUN.
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Re: And now an Ogre became mayor of my fortress...
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2010, 10:05:18 am »

Can't remember if there were unhappy thoughts because of it. Can't even remember if anyone had him  listed as an acquaintance or friend.

Creatures can only make friends with their own race.  (Racist bastards!) If you have "tamable elves", they will make friends only with other elves.  If you make your pets like dogs have [CAN_LEARN] or [INTELLIGENT], they will only make friends with other dogs, not with intelligent cows or whatever.  (This also leads to all your dogs being legendary in all the social skills, as well as having random cats walk onto the map as the pet of migrants with something like "master weaver" as a skill, and sometimes having those labors enabled.)
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Re: And now an Ogre became mayor of my fortress...
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2010, 11:23:42 am »

I shall resist the urge to make political commentary and instead state that I look forward to the inevitable election of Ms. Tigerman as the mayor of my fort some day in the future.  She's already the most social being in the entire fort, after all!
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Re: And now an Ogre became mayor of my fortress...
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2010, 01:24:32 pm »

So, do tigermen have suffrage?

And did your ogre make mandates?

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Re: And now an Ogre became mayor of my fortress...
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2010, 01:41:40 pm »

I think mandates would go back to the old 40d style, wherein kings would make no mandates because they had no preferences.  No preferences for ogres (and most everyone but dwarves) means no mandates.
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