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[nenjin]

Here's their Gamescon teaser trailer.

http://videos.pcgames.de/v/axSJ2wLBUfm/Dungeons/Gamescom-2010-Teaser-Trailer/

No gameplay yet, sorry folks. And it looks like the game will be quite silly. 

[ECrownofFire]

Silly is fine, if they can make it good enough. The trailer doesn't look too silly though, it's definitely a lighter mood than Dungeon Keeper though.

[Shadowgandor]

Well, it really reminded me of the dungeon keeper 1 intro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N5ODEGR1KQ

And no, that is not youtube that is blurring the video, it's just like that

[Saint]

Evil genius is a good inspired by DK game.
I found it pretty funny.
Hopefully dk3 is as good as the other two.

[nenjin]

Hopefully dk3 Dungeons is as good as the other two.

Fix't. We might as well start minding our IP P's and Q's now. Plus the game is starting to take on a character of its own.

[Neonivek]

Evil genius is a good inspired by DK game.
I found it pretty funny.
Hopefully dk3 is as good as the other two.

If we took out the bugs and altered the world map a little bit that game would be perfect. (It did have awsome music)

[ECrownofFire]

Evil genius is a good inspired by DK game.
I found it pretty funny.
Hopefully dk3 is as good as the other two.

If we took out the bugs and altered the world map a little bit that game would be perfect. (It did have awsome music)

And made it longer, Evil Genius was FAR too short. There were also some elements of the game that were just terrible.

[Saint]

A sandbox option would have been real nice.
As in pick from a selection of islands and sizes and be able to control different variables in the game.

[nenjin]

Yeah, the fixed island design really kills the replay value. You can only re-arrange your base design so many ways before you've got nothing left to try.

[Sowelu]

Personally, I thought that the opposition in Evil Genius was terrible.  It was annoying, it just felt...uninteresting.  The super agents were frustrating and boring.  The guys who blew stuff up were annoying and boring.  The guys who snooped around were easy and boring.

I have no idea how to make it more interesting, but it just felt like...there wasn't anything interesting going on with the people who invaded your island.  And if they're not interesting then what made the game interesting?  Building your base?  Well, that's cool until it's built.  You might as well be playing Theme Hospital (which again, is fun...to build.  But once you get your hospital built, you wind up sitting on your thumbs waiting for the objectives to complete).  Hell even Rollercoaster Tycoon had that problem.

How do you take a game that's building-centric, and make it stay interesting after you're done building?  I guess DK came closest.  I liked it a lot when I was fighting someone who had their own dungeon--or when there was a harsh timeline to defend against a threat.

[Myroc]

Edit: Wrong topic. Ignore this post.

[ECrownofFire]

Personally, I thought that the opposition in Evil Genius was terrible.  It was annoying, it just felt...uninteresting.  The super agents were frustrating and boring.  The guys who blew stuff up were annoying and boring.  The guys who snooped around were easy and boring.

I have no idea how to make it more interesting, but it just felt like...there wasn't anything interesting going on with the people who invaded your island.  And if they're not interesting then what made the game interesting?  Building your base?  Well, that's cool until it's built.  You might as well be playing Theme Hospital (which again, is fun...to build.  But once you get your hospital built, you wind up sitting on your thumbs waiting for the objectives to complete).  Hell even Rollercoaster Tycoon had that problem.

How do you take a game that's building-centric, and make it stay interesting after you're done building?  I guess DK came closest.  I liked it a lot when I was fighting someone who had their own dungeon--or when there was a harsh timeline to defend against a threat.

This is why Sim City has the "natural" disasters

[Sowelu]

Nah, SimCity just lets you keep building and building.    As you grow larger, more challenges present themselves.  And--this is important!--if you start to have trouble, you can consolidate, rework, or just reduce funding and let people flee the city like rats on a sinking ship until you can build up a small surplus again.  I find the natural disasters to be kind of annoying, because they break that pattern...and because they don't meaningfully chance your city design (oh hey, a tornado took out a chunk of the city, let me just replace it exactly the same way).

In SimCity, many challenges come from the landscape itself.  Like "How will I build in this narrow strip between the river and the mountain".  Planning stuff like that is fun, and I like those challenges in other games too.  The 2d Dwarf Fortress had very similar issues, and was totally awesome:  "How do I fit this stuff between the river and the chasm" and "How do I organize these hallways to defend against semi-constant incursions from chasm monsters".  So attackers are pretty okay, as long as they're a design threat...

[Neonivek]

It is true, some natural disasters are actually quite harmless unless they take down some expencive junk.

[Shadowgandor]

http://gamescom.gamespot.com/story/6274181/dungeons-impressions/?tag=previews;title;6

NIICE It sounds like it's really focussing on being an evil dungeon keeper, sending waves of monsters against heroes in order to achieve your goal.