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[Beeskee]

Does anyone knows of any videos of Toady playing DF? I would really love to see how the creator of the game plays it.   I bet he knows some tricks he isn't telling us hehe.

Is there such a thing?  I know there are a ton of DF videos on Youtube and etc now, but I haven't found any of the creators playing.

[Greiger]

I think during one of the meetups Toady and Threetoe played some DF.   If I recall the fortress lasted only about 5 minutes before falling to horrible undead wildlife. 

But I don't know where the video of that is located anymore.  And only a little bit of it was the game.

[existent]

Agreed. I've always wanted to know how Toady plays.

Although, I'm not sure he knows any "tricks" per se. Even in the DF talks, there's a lot of stuff about the game he doesn't know. I can only imagine that DF is too big and complicated for any one man to understand it, even if that man is its creator. It has become the stuff of legends, and it's only matter of time before it achieves sentience..... if it hasn't already.

On a related thought, I think I'm going to buy a cheap netbook, put DF on it, and bury it in a time capsule for 1,000 years.

Maybe an ipad would be more appropriate.

[de5me7]

i recall him saying in one of the earlier editions of dwarffortress talk that he didnt play DF that often as it was not yet in a state he wanted (or something to that effect) and that he would start playing it more, later in the development cycle.

[Sir Finkus]

I think during one of the meetups Toady and Threetoe played some DF.   If I recall the fortress lasted only about 5 minutes before falling to horrible undead wildlife. 

But I don't know where the video of that is located anymore.  And only a little bit of it was the game.

Yeah, undead hippo and skeletal carp.  Toady ended up sending a guy with an axe after them and designating a very small fort before handing it off to his brother.  He didn't last very long.

I think when the game was just released he had some sample videos up, but that's before my time. Maybe someone can dig them up.

[MaDeR Levap]

I bet he knows some tricks he isn't telling us hehe.

Skill to play game is different thing than skill to program said game. It is possible, for example, that programmer would write chess game, where he would constantly lose to computer.

[riffraffselbow]

I bet he knows some tricks he isn't telling us hehe.

Skill to play game is different thing than skill to program said game. It is possible, for example, that programmer would write chess game, where he would constantly lose to computer.

I agree with your premise, but not your example. A programmer designing a serious chess playing program would need a good working knowledge of the game, unless he were brute-forcing it, which is still at least 5-10 years off, and even then it'll take a massive distributed computing effort to brute force.

[MaDeR Levap]

A programmer designing a serious chess playing program would need a good working knowledge of the game

Programmer have to know rules of chess and ways to implement said rules. While he of course should at least be familiar with chess and play it, he does not need to be good chess player to create good chess game that will beat him.

unless he were brute-forcing it

Why you think brute force is different than some arcanely optimized algorthim with esoteric heuristic to play chess in context of ability of programmer to beat program?

[mnjiman]

It isnt just his personal opinion he is relaying on for feed back.. hes relaying on us. We are his testers.

Saying this, I would love to know that he would play his game once in awhile so he can have a understanding of its current state. How else would he knew without first hand experience.

[Sir Finkus]

It isnt just his personal opinion he is relaying on for feed back.. hes relaying on us. We are his testers.

Saying this, I would love to know that he would play his game once in awhile so he can have a understanding of its current state. How else would he knew without first hand experience.

Based on what he said at the last meetup, he doesn't play dwarf mode all that often.  He tests new features by using saves people give him, or by just making a small test fort.  I don't think he really sits down and plays a fort from embark to king or fps death like a lot of us do.  Of course I could be misinterpreting what he was saying, or maybe that's changed.

[MaDeR Levap]

I would say that he plays only shortly to test only needed parts (many bugs was unnoticeable at start, some pathfinding bugs was not present on 2x2 embarks etc). It is fine, because making decent fort take long time, though he should play full game to bitter end once for a while, he may notice things that he would want to change. We are his testers. Extremely dedicated, maniacal, rabid and utterly insane.

[existent]

Well, he's said he works on DF because he needs a game with re-playability for it to stay fun to program.

[calrogman]

Last I heard Toady prefers Adventure Mode.