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[Org]

The fact that you have no proof that I am even scum.
Derp herp.

[Vector]

I always thought you loved voting Org as well Zai, what's holding you back now?

Wait, are you seriously trying to press Zai into voting Org just because ... you think Zai's scum?  This doesn't even make sense.

If Org isn't scum, you are definitely scum Zai.

And then there's this... setting up lynches, or something?  Whatever it is, it doesn't look good and, in context with your complete dearth of scum-hunting throughout this game, I'm going to have to vote ToonyMan.

[ToonyMan]

Don't care, I was just using Zai's past history.  The second quote means I think Zai is second most likely scum, not setting up a lynch, but I'm voting Zai if Org isn't here to vote.

[Zai]

I always thought you loved voting Org as well Zai, what's holding you back now?

The fact I don't see him as scum?

Anyway, I think I shall go back and look for some reads on people.

[ToonyMan]

You don't think Org is scum?  I find that hard to believe.  That is a lie Zai and town shouldn't lie.

[Vector]

You don't think Org is scum?  I find that hard to believe.  That is a lie Zai and town shouldn't lie.

DUDE WHAT THE HELL, mate?

Does... does no one else see this?  Yeah, I thought he was town, but... this!  Come fricking on.

[Org]

Pandar is lurking and bandwagoning.
Sounds scummy.

[Pandarsenic]

You don't think Org is scum?  I find that hard to believe.  That is a lie Zai and town shouldn't lie.

DUDE WHAT THE HELL, mate?

Does... does no one else see this?  Yeah, I thought he was town, but... this!  Come fricking on.

I lol'd.

Pandar is lurking and bandwagoning.
Sounds scummy.

Cry some moaaaaaaaaaaaaar

[Zai]

Reread the thread (skimmed parts). I'm not sure if TM is town. His interactions with IO lead me to believe town, but everything else... But his guard ability could have been used to protect scumbuddies, since there were obviously other killers besides just Mafia. And his Short Fuse ability could have been used as scum to get Vigs/SKs to attempt to NK him, apparently getting rid of their NKs.

Also. From Ottofar's role PM:

(Day) Grappling Hook [target]: If a player leaves the scene, you may follow them and bring them back... if they're alive.

...Does this mean that one of the people who are "missing" might be alive? Remember, N2, we had 2 people go missing (Zathras and Joker). Only one is confirmed to have died (Zathras), and IO only "crunched" up the body of another (presumably Toaster, the sole missing person of N1). And nobody claimed getting rid of Joker.

WAIT. I just realized something. N2, we had 2 missing people: Joker and Zathras. After IO was lynched, we got Zathras's body, meaning scum definitely killed him that night. But if TM's telling the truth about him getting rid of somebody's NK on N2, then that would mean that scum had at least 2 NKs. Nobody's claimed having the ability to kill (though an SK wouldn't...), so we actually had at least 2 scum Kills (possibly 3 if Joker going missing wasn't part of his own role).

EVERYBODY: Would anybody like to claim a NK they didn't tell us about, that may or may not be gone now?

Fire (auto): Hidden.  No idea.  I'm guessing it's something destructive, though, just from the name.

Why would Web tell you about a Hidden ability? That doesn't make sense, Vector. In BYOR 3, if you had Hidden attributes they were damn well hidden from you. As in, you weren't even told about them! And EVERYBODY else in this game was told all of their powers, so why would you be an exception?

WEB: When Eduren died, it said he was killed. Was that just generic flavor or relevant to how he died?

[Vector]

Fire (auto): Hidden.  No idea.  I'm guessing it's something destructive, though, just from the name.

Why would Web tell you about a Hidden ability? That doesn't make sense, Vector. In BYOR 3, if you had Hidden attributes they were damn well hidden from you. As in, you weren't even told about them! And EVERYBODY else in this game was told all of their powers, so why would you be an exception?

That's a good question.  I think I used the wrong terminology when I said "hidden," though, because I was saying "hidden" as in "effect hidden from me."  Like "secret voter," whatever.  All I meant is that I have an auto thing under "fire," and I was told "I'm not telling you what that does."

Why would I be an exception?  I dunno.  There are exceptions to rules, sometimes.  Why does Pandarsenic always roll up Secret Voter, and tend to be the only one?  Dunno.

All I know is what my role PM said.  I can't argue with the truth.

[ToonyMan]

I had the thought in my head that letting a few town die that I could have guarded is worth it when mafia try to night kill me, turns out it worked.

[webadict]

WEB: When Eduren died, it said he was killed. Was that just generic flavor or relevant to how he died?

Generic flavor. There's only two flavors: killed and suicide (When they die that time). Zathras' was different in that he was found dead.

[TheBroodyMoods]

I apologize for not being on; I got trapped at my parent's place last couple days: on the plus side- Kitten Happened. Kneel before your Zod Cat.

Brotherly Love- I can form a mason group.

I assume you already have done so? Or does forming it get rid of your Revive? Can only Townies be recruited? If not, does recruiting people reveal their alignment to you?

This sounds suspicious is why I ask.

Second: It reveals that I am town but I do not get to know if the other person is town. I can recruit anyone, so it's entirely hunch based.

THEBROODYMOODS: Did you or did you not already form a Mason group? Is it a Night, Day, or Either action?

I did in fact form a mason group with Vector. She claimed the same role that she did here. I have no reason, thus far, to doubt that she's town.

[TheBroodyMoods]

I still find it suspicious that there were three night kill attempts in a single night, including Toony. I think a much more likely explanation would be getting two night kills at once, while loosing the one the next night. Even if someone did try and hit him, I just find it hard to believe with that many night kills the previous round they'd all just dry up like that the next- that whatever the night kill ability use on him, happened to be the same as the other two.

With that, I also find it odd that IronyOwl just gave up. I mean, at a certain point, yeah- call the day to an end.

I'm just postulating, honestly.

[ToonyMan]

Have anybody to vote?