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Author Topic: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves  (Read 1553661 times)

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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #3975 on: June 30, 2012, 10:16:45 pm »

and screw as fast as rabbis

There is something very wrong with that.
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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #3976 on: June 30, 2012, 10:23:17 pm »

and screw as fast as rabbis

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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #3977 on: June 30, 2012, 10:35:09 pm »

and screw as fast as rabbis

There is something very wrong with that.
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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #3978 on: July 01, 2012, 01:24:55 am »

He's probably paralysed. He can't do much when he's losing the battle to get his lungs to do stuff.
He was not paralyzed, its the fact that the spider gave up every once and a while and spammed webs then made the dwarf focus on deflecting love bites with his head.
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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #3979 on: July 01, 2012, 01:29:24 am »

Being webbed is as good as being paralysed. Pretty much the same effect, iirc.

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A creature just caught in a web will be considered by the game to be momentarily unconscious, which causes traps to be triggered by creatures normally immune to them.

So basically they lose all their skill rolls while they're fighting to get free of the web.

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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #3980 on: July 01, 2012, 03:40:56 am »

Being webbed is as good as being paralysed. Pretty much the same effect, iirc.

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A creature just caught in a web will be considered by the game to be momentarily unconscious, which causes traps to be triggered by creatures normally immune to them.

So basically they lose all their skill rolls while they're fighting to get free of the web.
So why did the iron helm block so many pages of combat if being webbed makes his armor skill go down to 0?
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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #3981 on: July 01, 2012, 03:46:18 am »

Because it's the armor stopping it, not necessarily any skill on his part. Having armor user skill just means the user is less encumbered by the armor.

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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #3982 on: July 01, 2012, 03:54:50 am »

Because it's the armor stopping it, not necessarily any skill on his part. Having armor user skill just means the user is less encumbered by the armor.
Doesn't it also affect the rolls to block?

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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #3983 on: July 01, 2012, 04:28:52 am »

I think that's shield user.

In the case of a webbed dwarf, the only thing deflecting the attack is the material itself, not any skill or luck or tissue behind it.

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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #3984 on: July 01, 2012, 08:02:06 am »

and screw as fast as rabbis

There is something very wrong with that.
...Oops, typo. Very amusing typo, but still.

He's probably paralysed. He can't do much when he's losing the battle to get his lungs to do stuff.
He was not paralyzed, its the fact that the spider gave up every once and a while and spammed webs then made the dwarf focus on deflecting love bites with his head.
Was he ever bitten, successfully? All those attacks, consistantly to the head, only happens when dwarves are incapacitated.
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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #3985 on: July 01, 2012, 10:12:00 am »

Yea it's one of the things that bugs me about vanilla helmets.  They are 100% coverage.  No matter how much it tries, that spider is not going to ever successfully bite to the head, it's got a much better chance on some other bodypart, but when something is incapacitated, webs, KO, or otherwise, attackers will always go for the head, whether they can actually do any damage or not through coverage.

Its one of the reasons I usually adjust helmets to only provide 90 coverage instead of 100.  Makes the go for the head behavior less stupid on critters unable to penetrate armor, because it gives them a 10% chance to ignore it.
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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #3986 on: July 01, 2012, 10:48:05 am »

Dear keas,

Have fun evaporating, as I am done with your shenanigans.

Sincerely,
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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #3987 on: July 01, 2012, 01:38:17 pm »

Yea it's one of the things that bugs me about vanilla helmets.  They are 100% coverage.  No matter how much it tries, that spider is not going to ever successfully bite to the head, it's got a much better chance on some other bodypart, but when something is incapacitated, webs, KO, or otherwise, attackers will always go for the head, whether they can actually do any damage or not through coverage.

Its one of the reasons I usually adjust helmets to only provide 90 coverage instead of 100.  Makes the go for the head behavior less stupid on critters unable to penetrate armor, because it gives them a 10% chance to ignore it.
Can either be a life-saver or a total bitch in adventure mode. You either buy enough time to recover and kill the spider, or you wind up debilitated and have to starve to death because it's an eternity of sitting around with a spider chewing your metal-encrusted cranium.
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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #3988 on: July 01, 2012, 01:53:55 pm »

Can't you 'r'emove your helm? And then 't'hrow it at the spider?
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Re: Note to Urist--In which you express your frustration to your dwarves
« Reply #3989 on: July 01, 2012, 01:56:08 pm »

Dear modbolds

I know you're hiding out here somewhere..... COME OUT! COME OUT AND DIE LIKE MEN!!!
Which is funny since most of your soldiers seem to be female. But still.

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