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Hammerjinx

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Walls and Rivers
« on: August 05, 2010, 12:51:30 am »
If I build a wall across a river, will goblins, etc swim under it? Does it make a difference if it is a brook or a river?

In cross-section;
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   #   <--- wall
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~~~~~~~  <--river
#######  <--soggy bottom

I want to fence off an area for outdoor farming, and I'd like fishing and water access also. I don't need to get in and out, becuase the entrance is elsewhere.
I really don't want to go for some massive engineering project to temporarily divert the river while I build some fortifications on the river bed.
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Re: Walls and Rivers
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2010, 01:05:46 am »
I don't think goblins will attempt to path through if the water is more than 3/7. I'm not sure about undead or creatures with [AQUATIC] [AMPHIBIOUS] or [SWIMS_INNATE]
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Re: Walls and Rivers
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2010, 03:35:30 am »
Brooks on the top are like regular ground, don't know about them.

Wouldn't it just be easier to build the wall on the other bank?
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Re: Walls and Rivers
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2010, 03:45:42 am »
Can't swim under brooks, they're magical.

Rivers however, they can, if the goblins bring cave crocodiles.
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Re: Walls and Rivers
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2010, 04:30:03 am »
Also, you can fish through grates.  So you can build the wall and just grate over the water.
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Lawec

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Re: Walls and Rivers
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2010, 04:52:51 am »
Dragons can also swim I think. I had a dragon pass through a river to get down to my dining hall. It was quite Fun.
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Re: Walls and Rivers
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2010, 05:30:36 am »
Quote from: Lawec on August 05, 2010, 04:52:51 am
Dragons can also swim I think. I had a dragon pass through a river to get down to my dining hall. It was quite Fun.
they can also swim through magma without any worri3es
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Re: Walls and Rivers
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2010, 05:48:24 am »
At least they can do that now. Back in 40d, they certainly thought they were magma immune. They... weren't.
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Re: Walls and Rivers
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2010, 09:10:11 am »
Brooks are full of natural brook wall tiles which are exactly like fortifications and presumably represent a jumble of loosely packed rocks.
If you have an actual river, swimming enemies will be able to come under the wall. Goblins aren't good swimmers and won't do it, but sometimes they come mounted on amphibious animals like giant toads, and there is presently a bug where such mounts will try to swim into your fort and drown their riders: http://bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=926
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