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Author Topic: 14th Amendment Shenanigans  (Read 8289 times)

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Re: 14th Amendment Shenanigans
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2010, 07:41:50 am »

Still nowhere near what they need. The reactionaries will give up on this sooner or later.

Dude...they still haven't given up on the "OMG OBAMA is teh secret Kenyan Muslim!" theory. Reality is no obstacle to the devoted reactionary.
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Re: 14th Amendment Shenanigans
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2010, 08:06:41 am »

I dare you to find a single rational person who honestly thinks Obama is a secret muslim kenyan. I hate the guy as a president, but such a theory is somthing I would expect to find in his WMG file. It probably is in there, even. Reactionaries are seeing slightly increased popularity due to the Tea Party, and this is the result of becoming egotistic about it, honestly thinking they can pass an amendment.
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Re: 14th Amendment Shenanigans
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2010, 08:15:08 am »

Why would anyone care if he's Muslim? I understand the Kenyan part, but not the Muslim part.
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Re: 14th Amendment Shenanigans
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2010, 08:19:14 am »

Because Muslims are subverting democracy, is why.

I'm pretty sure that's what they believe.
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Re: 14th Amendment Shenanigans
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2010, 08:19:42 am »

I firmly believe the entire USA (past and present) exists solely to create politicians who make inane sounding propositions whenever I start feeling like my own country's political processes are too frustrating and fuck-witted to ever be worth anything in the slightest. Your news reports make the whole Liberals/Labour thing seem intelligent and well-reasoned, their feeble attempts at meaningful discourse feel like a beautiful concert of reason, sense and happiness!

You guys (edit: 'you guys' being the US political machine and surrounding idiocy) cheer me up immensely and therefore you must be doing it intentionally. Keep up the good work!
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Re: 14th Amendment Shenanigans
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2010, 08:40:54 am »

We have not yet begun to be dysfunctional. We still don't have open bench-clearing brawls in Congress like they do from time to time in South Korea and Taiwan.


MSH: I didn't say Birthers were rational. But they are reactionary. Nor are all reactionaries Birthers. But they do share a similar disconnect from political reality and a similar desire to overturn the existing political order in the name of "taking back the country".

It really is going to be interesting to see how all this plays out in November. My guess is that the GOP will make some gains, but not it'll be a mixed bag. And not enough to break the Democrats' nominal majorities. But it will enough to ensure gridlock for the remainder of Obama's term. Most of the politics from 2010-2012 is going to revolve around which side gets the blame for nothing getting done.



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Re: 14th Amendment Shenanigans
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2010, 09:27:01 am »

GOP?
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Re: 14th Amendment Shenanigans
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2010, 09:31:47 am »

Grand Old Party.
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Re: 14th Amendment Shenanigans
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2010, 10:06:25 am »

I love how New York hasn't finished its budget yet.  Its like everyone is trying to not make any concrete decisions that'll hurt their chances at getting re-elected in the upcoming elections.

At least the governor knows he ain't coming back for re-election, so he could try to do what need be done.

At least that is the impression I got on the whole affair.

(Related to sitting duck politicians mentioned by RedKing.)
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Re: 14th Amendment Shenanigans
« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2010, 10:43:18 am »

I dare you to find a single rational person who honestly thinks Obama is a secret muslim kenyan.

I would say my grandparents, which makes sense, being a general platform geared towards scaring the crap out of old white people.  But then, they're anything but rational.  The trick is, you don't have to be rational to be a voter.

Why would anyone care if he's Muslim? I understand the Kenyan part, but not the Muslim part.

That's a good question.  I suggest you ask the people in Georgia throwing a shit fit over a mosque being built in Manhattan.  I'm sure they can provide you with an answer.
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Re: 14th Amendment Shenanigans
« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2010, 10:51:35 am »

Hey guys, remember in elementary school when we read all those uplifting and heroic stories about hard-working immigrants who floated here from Europe in the bilges of cargo ships and then worked the rest of their lives doing horrible jobs just to give their kids a chance at a better life?

Yeah, me neither.

Honestly, the Obama's a Secret Kenyan Mooslim thing was pretty pervasive at least during the election.  Even my otherwise rational parents bought into it.  My dad doesn't anymore, I assume my mom doesn't, it was all that excitement and tension making people dumb.

Speaking of the mosque, my heavily republican colleague (His Facebook political blurb reads "redneck conservative" to give you an idea") got all up on me when I mentioned that condemning an entire religion because of 9/11 was a little retarded.  He said "Alright, I'll just go and build a Shinto shrine near Pearl Harbor"

Disregarding the fact that he only brought it up so we would all know he knew what Shinto was (When you associate long enough with him, you get an eye for stuff like this, we can all read him like a book) and I said that it was a false analogy because Pearl Harbor was an act of open war, not religiously motivated terrorism, and he said I just posted the whole thing to get attention and left.

Thankfully someone posted he was going to build a daycare next to Neverland Ranch, and cleared the air a bit.

This is a pretty long, meandering post.  I'm summing it up:  I think losing the election made the Republicans go crazy
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Re: 14th Amendment Shenanigans
« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2010, 10:57:48 am »

This will never happen. They couldn't get 2/3rds majority for anything, including voting to save a puppy from a steamroller.
 
This is only political scumbags pandering to paranoid-schizophrenic militias and tea party klansmen.
 
Everybody involved, from the politicians who propose this, the opposing politicians who take this seriously, the inbred sacks of lard who are the target audience for this, to the reporters who consider this "news", aught to be dumped in the middle of the pacific ocean in shark season with flotation devices made of raw ham.
 
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Re: 14th Amendment Shenanigans
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2010, 11:00:21 am »

to the reporters who consider this "news"

Oh come now.  Any elected official who's gone far enough off the deep-end to propose repealing the 14th Amendment is definitely newsworthy.  We all need something to laugh at during the day.
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Re: 14th Amendment Shenanigans
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2010, 11:22:40 am »

to the reporters who consider this "news"

Oh come now.  Any elected official who's gone far enough off the deep-end to propose repealing the 14th Amendment is definitely newsworthy.  We all need something to laugh at during the day.

Then later be horrified when you find that there is a lot of public support for this. 

My fail prediction anyways.
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Re: 14th Amendment Shenanigans
« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2010, 11:27:53 am »

Hey guys, remember in elementary school when we read all those uplifting and heroic stories about hard-working immigrants who floated here from Europe in the bilges of cargo ships and then worked the rest of their lives doing horrible jobs just to give their kids a chance at a better life?

Yeah, me neither.

Honestly, the Obama's a Secret Kenyan Mooslim thing was pretty pervasive at least during the election.  Even my otherwise rational parents bought into it.  My dad doesn't anymore, I assume my mom doesn't, it was all that excitement and tension making people dumb.

Speaking of the mosque, my heavily republican colleague (His Facebook political blurb reads "redneck conservative" to give you an idea") got all up on me when I mentioned that condemning an entire religion because of 9/11 was a little retarded.  He said "Alright, I'll just go and build a Shinto shrine near Pearl Harbor"

You really should ask him if he means the Kotohira Jinsha-Dazaifu Tenmangu (located about 5 miles from Pearl Harbor) or the Daijingu Temple (about 2 miles further away). I mean, considering that population of Hawaii is still over 50% of Japanese ancestry, and the islands aren't all that big, it's kinda retarded to think that there wouldn't be a Shinto shrine or two nearby.

Oh, and apparently the whole Pearl Harbor/Shinto shrine is one of those right-wing talking points that hit the Web before anyone actually thought to check to see if...you know, there actually IS a shrine nearby.
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