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[Heron TSG]

They could chase him, but have absolutely no capability to kill him.

They have the fact that they exude sunlight, which would kill him in two rounds. You can't possibly argue that the gas can get into the ground and the photons can't.

Hmmm, now would be a really good time for Aryana to become sentient again, it looks as though I will be adventuring with nothing but the DMPC...

When did OrangeBottle say they could come back, again?

[RAM]

If they were composed of photons then it hardly seems likely that they would remain cohesive. So whatever causes them to remain cohesive presumably has the capacity to force them to maintain their form even if it would prevent passage. Which spell is it exactly and why do they qualify as sunlight? How quickly do they travel?

[Lord Shonus]

They. Can. Not. Kill. Him. Only sulight from the sun directly or staking will do here, due to the influence of a Power.

[Heron TSG]

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Yes, yes, I know. Arguing with the DM is stupid, they hold all the cards. However, I'm not someone who likes to be cheated. Especially when I'm cheated out of something this important.

[Pillow_Killer]

The spell doesnt extends to your mirror image.

[Lord Shonus]

In any case only DIRECT sunlight affects vampires.

[Pillow_Killer]

But what about all those movies where dracula is killed by hero turning a mirror at him reflecting the sunlight, killing him?

[Lord Shonus]

I've asked on the official Wizards boards. Mirror Image cannot be used to chase down enemies in the fashion barb is trying to do, and the word "sunlight" is nothing more than flavor text. It has absolutely zero gameplay effect.

[syvarris]

Shonus, can I take the Elemental Savant class posted by reese on pg.65 for level eleven?

If so that did not list skills, this one does, which would I use?

Also, on a unrelated topic BOTH times I died it was from a AoE death effect... so what happened to my weasel?  Dead I assume.

[Lord Shonus]

That looks OK to me, but I'm going ot wait to OK it until RAM looks over it. I believe familiars die with the wizard.

[syvarris]

errr... you answered "yes" to an either/or question...

I hope it died.  then i can get a elemental at level 12!

[Lord Shonus]

They seem to be the same class, just the first one has some info missing.

[Reese]

I remember reading or hearing something about the magical bond that makes a familiar breaking when the master dies- not sure if the familiar would revert to a regular animal when that happens, though.

Interesting, the d20srd site says that the master gains the familiar benefits if the familiar is within one mile of its master, I always thought the familiar had to be close by the master.  Nothing I could see about what happens if the master dies, though.

[Lord Shonus]

Barb: Here's a complete rules ruling on what you wanted to do.


   1. Mirror Image creates figments. Figments are not valid targets for Nimbus of Light.
   2. Mirror Image does not include any description allowing you to command the figments as to their actions or location relative to you; instead, they mimic your actions, and stay near you and within 5' of you or each other. Spells do only what they're specified to do. So the Cleric can neither add capabilities not included, nor override built-in limits (such as "The figments stay near you").
   3. Mirror Image will duplicate the appearance of magical effects, including Nimbus of Light on the Mirror Image spellcaster, but not anything other than sensory effects. Each figment will appear as bright as a lantern, but this illumination can cause no harm because such capability is not provided for in the Mirror Image description.
   4. Only actual sunlight, or an effect specified as having the same properties, will harm vampires. Some sunlight-type spells even include a reminder to that effect.
     

      Despite its name, this spell is not the equivalent of daylight for the purposes of creatures that are damaged or destroyed by bright light.

   5. The only way that Nimbus of Light can cause harm is with the specified ranged touch attack. Your Cleric's plan didn't specify use of this attack, so no damage is possible.

You weren't being cheated. You were cheating.

[Shoruke]

I died during a session I wasn't present for? Ouch. Well, at least I got a level up from the fight, so I don't have to go back to level 11, just the midpoint of level 12...

Which is still ~100 exp ahead of where I was at the start of the session. Whee.

P.S., the living among you may feel free to use Cerrad's money to pay for the diamonds for his resurrection.