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[Organum]

remember that the lower the [SPEC_HEAT:#] the faster the material affects it's surronding's temp, and vice versa.

WHAT. Dwarf fortress actually has temperature work realistically?!
I just had a "wow, this really is complex" moment.

[Shaostoul]

A guy was messing around with perfectworld and he put just the height map of europe in it and left the world generator to place forests and all that and it was pretty freaking accurate, forests where forests are, rivers following more or less the same path, etc.

Dwarf Fortress has so much work put into it and is so complex, some people can't comprehend or understand how complex it really is. This is why I think Toady rocks.

[Organum]

I saw that thread. I was impressed then, but for some reason I'm more impressed with the temperature modeling.

[Shaostoul]

I'd say, just be in awe of all of it, even the stuff you don't know of yet, better safe than sorry. haha

[Organum]

"All hail the Toad", I suppose.

EDIT: Oh, and I finally gave up on making the water freeze. I downloaded DFhack and magma-painted an obsidian base for the palace.

[Shaostoul]

That's what I would've done in the first place or use the water feature and remove a ton of the water.

[Organum]

You can remove the water?!

[Shaostoul]

Yeah, using the hack dealio.

I believe what you want to do is.

block
w
0 <- zero

and then move to where it is you want to remove.

[Rumrusher]

but don't removing 7/7 water won't clear up pathfinding causing your dwarves to count the area that water was removed off limits.

[Shaostoul]

The way I cleared that up was I place a construction or some how forced a dwarf to go there. It forces the game to re-read what is there and it will adjust it. I normally just place or remove a floor, however if you have no way down there yet, you could try placing a down stair above it and then try placing the up stair to connect. Just fiddle with it a bit and I'm pretty sure you'll get it. It's like if you have static water on the surface not surrounded by anything. If you have a dwarf walk next to it (sometimes) or place a floor right next to it, the water will get a state change and start to flow. Rain will also change static water.

[Urist McFumbler]

Assuming the OP doesn't want to use DFHack to add obsidian as a base of the structure.

Why not channel some magna towards it and make obsidian walls naturally?

You will have a magma moat and also a obsidian support in place at the same time.

[Organum]

Ha ha ha ha. This is a bit of a necro...but that is what I ended up doing.

[s20dan]

So you had no joy with that freezing stone? Because it sounded quite interesting.

[Organum]

From what I've learned both here and in other places, you can't use an item that's submerged in water to freeze other tiles of water. The object will be destroyed and nothing good will come of it.

[Rumrusher]

that is the idea but so far I don't believe it when no one had shown the code for a stone that can freeze ice. (doesn't matter if it gets removed from being in cased).