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[HenryGale]

Hi everyone,

I'm just dipping my toes into modding DF, mostly because I have the beginnings of a fort that I like on a woefully tree-less map (and sand-less... and all those steps to make steel are such a pain... but those problems I've already solved  ). I've been trying to follow Shaostoul's great guide and it's just not working for me. I just can't get the custom workshop to appear in my list of build options. I'm wondering if it's because I'm trying to mod an existing fortress instead of starting fresh? I'm grateful for any ideas you have.

Here's my building_custom.txt:

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building_custom

[OBJECT:BUILDING]

[BUILDING_WORKSHOP:SOAP_MAKER]
   [NAME:Soap Maker's Workshop]
   [NAME_COLOR:7:0:1]
   [DIM:3:3]
   [WORK_LOCATION:2:2]
   [BUILD_LABOR:SOAP_MAKER]
   [BUILD_KEY:CUSTOM_SHIFT_S]
   [BLOCK:1:0:0:0]
   [BLOCK:2:0:0:0]
   [BLOCK:3:0:0:0]
   [TILE:0:1:' ':' ':150]
   [TILE:0:2:' ':' ':'/']
   [TILE:0:3:'-':' ':' ']
   [COLOR:0:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
   [COLOR:0:2:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
   [COLOR:0:3:6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
   [TILE:1:1:' ':' ':'=']
   [TILE:1:2:'-':' ':8]
   [TILE:1:3:' ':' ':150]
   [COLOR:1:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
   [COLOR:1:2:6:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
   [COLOR:1:3:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
   [TILE:2:1:'-':' ':8]
   [TILE:2:2:' ':' ':8]
   [TILE:2:3:' ':150:' ']
   [COLOR:2:1:6:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
   [COLOR:2:2:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
   [COLOR:2:3:0:0:0:6:0:0:0:0:0]
   [TILE:3:1:150:' ':8]
   [TILE:3:2:' ':' ':8]
   [TILE:3:3:' ':240:' ']
   [COLOR:3:1:6:0:0:0:0:0:6:7:0]
   [COLOR:3:2:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:7:0]
   [COLOR:3:3:0:0:0:7:0:1:0:0:0]
   [BUILD_ITEM:1:BUCKET:NONE:NONE:NONE][EMPTY][CAN_USE_ARTIFACT]
   [BUILD_ITEM:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE][BUILDMAT][WORTHLESS_STONE_ONLY][CAN_USE_ARTIFACT]

[BUILDING_WORKSHOP:CHEAT_WORKSHOP]
   [NAME:Cheat Workshop]
   [NAME_COLOR:7:0:1]
   [DIM:3:3]
   [WORK_LOCATION:2:2]
   [BUILD_LABOR:SMELT]
   [BUILD_KEY:CUSTOM_SHIFT_C]
   [BLOCK:1:0:0:0]
   [BLOCK:2:0:0:0]
   [BLOCK:3:0:0:0]
   [TILE:0:1:' ':' ':150]
   [TILE:0:2:' ':' ':'/']
   [TILE:0:3:'-':' ':' ']
   [COLOR:0:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
   [COLOR:0:2:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
   [COLOR:0:3:6:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0]
   [TILE:1:1:' ':' ':'=']
   [TILE:1:2:'-':' ':8]
   [TILE:1:3:' ':' ':150]
   [COLOR:1:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
   [COLOR:1:2:6:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
   [COLOR:1:3:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
   [TILE:2:1:'-':' ':8]
   [TILE:2:2:' ':' ':8]
   [TILE:2:3:' ':150:' ']
   [COLOR:2:1:6:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
   [COLOR:2:2:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:0:0]
   [COLOR:2:3:0:0:0:6:0:0:0:0:0]
   [TILE:3:1:150:' ':8]
   [TILE:3:2:' ':' ':8]
   [TILE:3:3:' ':240:' ']
   [COLOR:3:1:6:0:0:0:0:0:6:7:0]
   [COLOR:3:2:0:0:0:0:0:0:6:7:0]
   [COLOR:3:3:0:0:0:7:0:1:0:0:0]
   [BUILD_ITEM:1:BUCKET:NONE:NONE:NONE][EMPTY][CAN_USE_ARTIFACT]
   [BUILD_ITEM:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE][BUILDMAT][WORTHLESS_STONE_ONLY][CAN_USE_ARTIFACT]

...and my entity_default up to where I added my new PERMITTED entires:

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entity_default

[OBJECT:ENTITY]

[ENTITY:MOUNTAIN]
   [CIV_CONTROLLABLE]
   [CREATURE:DWARF]
   [TRANSLATION:DWARF]
   [DIGGER:ITEM_WEAPON_PICK]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_BATTLE]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HAMMER_WAR]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MACE]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_CROSSBOW]
      [AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_BOLTS]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_TRAINING]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT_TRAINING]
   [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR_TRAINING]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_BREASTPLATE:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_MAIL_SHIRT:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_LEATHER:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_COAT:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_SHIRT:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_CLOAK:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_TUNIC:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_TOGA:UNCOMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_VEST:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_DRESS:COMMON]
   [ARMOR:ITEM_ARMOR_ROBE:COMMON]
   [HELM:ITEM_HELM_HELM:COMMON]
   [HELM:ITEM_HELM_CAP:COMMON]
   [HELM:ITEM_HELM_HOOD:COMMON]
   [GLOVES:ITEM_GLOVES_GAUNTLETS:COMMON]
   [GLOVES:ITEM_GLOVES_GLOVES:COMMON]
   [GLOVES:ITEM_GLOVES_MITTENS:COMMON]
   [SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SHOES:COMMON]
   [SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_BOOTS:COMMON]
   [SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_BOOTS_LOW:COMMON]
   [SHOES:ITEM_SHOES_SOCKS:COMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_PANTS:COMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_GREAVES:COMMON]
   [PANTS:ITEM_PANTS_LEGGINGS:COMMON]
   [SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_SHIELD]
   [SHIELD:ITEM_SHIELD_BUCKLER]
   [SIEGEAMMO:ITEM_SIEGEAMMO_BALLISTA]
   [TRAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_GIANTAXEBLADE]
   [TRAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_ENORMOUSCORKSCREW]
   [TRAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_SPIKEDBALL]
   [TRAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_LARGESERRATEDDISC]
   [TRAPCOMP:ITEM_TRAPCOMP_MENACINGSPIKE]
   [TOY:ITEM_TOY_PUZZLEBOX]
   [TOY:ITEM_TOY_BOAT]
   [TOY:ITEM_TOY_HAMMER]
   [TOY:ITEM_TOY_AXE]
   [TOY:ITEM_TOY_MINIFORGE]
   [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_FLUTE]
   [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_TRUMPET]
   [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_HARP]
   [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_DRUM]
   [INSTRUMENT:ITEM_INSTRUMENT_PICCOLO]
   [CLOTHING]
   [SUBTERRANEAN_CLOTHING]
   [CURRENCY_BY_YEAR]
   [CURRENCY:COPPER:1]
   [CURRENCY:SILVER:5]
   [CURRENCY:GOLD:15]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:WAR:NAME_WAR]
   [SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:WAR:VIOLENT]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:BATTLE:NAME_BATTLE]
   [SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:BATTLE:VIOLENT]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:SIEGE:NAME_SIEGE]
   [SUBSELECT_SYMBOL:SIEGE:VIOLENT]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:ROAD:NAME_ROAD]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:TUNNEL:NAME_TUNNEL]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:BRIDGE:NAME_BRIDGE]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:WALL:NAME_WALL]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:REMAINING:ARTIFICE]
   [SELECT_SYMBOL:REMAINING:EARTH]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:DOMESTIC]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:SUBORDINATE]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:EVIL]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:UNTOWARD]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:FLOWERY]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:NEGATIVE]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:UGLY]
   [CULL_SYMBOL:ALL:NEGATOR]
   [METAL_PREF]
   [GEM_PREF]
   [STONE_PREF]
   [OUTDOOR_WOOD]
   [INDOOR_WOOD]
   [INDOOR_FARMING]
   [USE_CAVE_ANIMALS]
   [USE_ANIMAL_PRODUCTS]
   [COMMON_DOMESTIC_PACK]
   [COMMON_DOMESTIC_PULL]
   [COMMON_DOMESTIC_MOUNT]
   [COMMON_DOMESTIC_PET]
   [USE_MISC_PROCESSED_WOOD_PRODUCTS]
   [EQUIPMENT_IMPROVEMENTS]
   [ART_IMAGE_ELEMENT_MODIFIER:PLANT:64]
   [ART_IMAGE_ELEMENT_MODIFIER:TREE:64]
   [ITEM_IMPROVEMENT_MODIFIER:RINGS_HANGING:64]
   [ITEM_IMPROVEMENT_MODIFIER:BANDS:384]
   [ITEM_IMPROVEMENT_MODIFIER:SPIKES:384]
   [ADVENTURE_TIER:3]
   [FRIENDLY_COLOR:1:0:1]
   [DEFAULT_SITE_TYPE:CAVE_DETAILED]
   [LIKES_SITE:CAVE_DETAILED]
   [TOLERATES_SITE:CITY]
   [TOLERATES_SITE:TREE_CITY]
   [TOLERATES_SITE:CAVE_DETAILED]
   [START_BIOME:MOUNTAIN]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_FOREST:1]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:MOUNTAIN:3]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_GRASSLAND:1]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_SAVANNA:1]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_SHRUBLAND:1]
   [BIOME_SUPPORT:ANY_RIVER:1]
   [DIPLOMAT_BODYGUARDS]
   [MERCHANT_BODYGUARDS]
   [ACTIVE_SEASON:AUTUMN]
   [SIEGER]
   [MAX_STARTING_CIV_NUMBER:100]
   [START_GROUP_NUMBER:10]
   [MAX_POP_NUMBER:10000]
   [MAX_SITE_POP_NUMBER:120]
   [RELIGION:PANTHEON]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:FORTRESSES]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:JEWELS]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:METALS]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:MINERALS]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:MOUNTAINS]
   [RELIGION_SPHERE:WEALTH]
   [WANDERER]
   [BEAST_HUNTER]
   [SCOUT]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:MINER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:CARPENTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BOWYER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCUTTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ENGRAVER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:MASON]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_CARETAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_TRAINER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:HUNTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:TRAPPER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ANIMAL_DISSECTOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:FURNACE_OPERATOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WEAPONSMITH]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ARMORER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BLACKSMITH]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:METALCRAFTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:GEM_CUTTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:GEM_SETTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WOODCRAFTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:STONECRAFTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:LEATHERWORKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BONE_CARVER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WEAVER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:CLOTHIER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:GLASSMAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:STRAND_EXTRACTOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:FISHERMAN]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:FISH_DISSECTOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:FISH_CLEANER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:CHEESE_MAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:MILKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:COOK]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:THRESHER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:MILLER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BUTCHER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:TANNER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:DYER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:PLANTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:HERBALIST]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BREWER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:SOAP_MAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:POTASH_MAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:LYE_MAKER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:WOOD_BURNER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:MECHANIC]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:SIEGE_ENGINEER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:SIEGE_OPERATOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:PUMP_OPERATOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:CLERK]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ADMINISTRATOR]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:TRADER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:ARCHITECT]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:DIAGNOSER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:BONE_SETTER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:SUTURER]
   [PERMITTED_JOB:SURGEON]
   [PERMITTED_BUILDING:SOAP_MAKER]
   [PERMITTED_BUILDING:CHEAT_WORKSHOP]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:CHEAT_REACTION]
   [PERMITTED_REACTION:FREE_WOOD]

I'm pretty sure I'm doing this in the right place. I've been able to make some changes to inorganic_stone_mineral.txt that appear correctly in-game. This is my path:
[DF folder]\data\save\region4\raw\objects\

Definitely the right region too. So... what am I missing, or is this just not possible without a regen?

[Kaelem Gaen]

In generally anytime you add a completely new entry  you have to regen,  if you're just editing an existing Reaction/Custombuilding then you don't need to regen

[profit]

If you wanted to use this in your current fort you would need to edit like the soapmakers reaction to make soap to what you needed it to do...

Me personally I would just regen... after all losing is fun and the first strikes of the earth with the pickaxe are the best part.

[Shaostoul]

Annnnd just in case, cause this question is answered on my guide. Check out my guide! I have a wiki version and a forum version, both with different information. Might be of a lot of help.

[HenryGale]

I've been trying to follow Shaostoul's great guide and it's just not working for me.

I'm well aware of your awesome work, Shaostoul. And you do mention a regen but... well, some folks in the threads I was finding seemed to be discussing custom workshops as if they were just dropping them into their existing forts. I shall know better than to doubt you next time. 

For the record, I left my dwarfs to rot and started a new fortress. They were too fussy anyway. It did sort of make the cheat workshop moot since my new location is COVERED in trees, but an interesting exercise nonetheless.

[Grimlocke]

I was recentely able to add some reactions to my tanners workshop that I forgot to add before generating my world. The reactions themselve exited before, but it wasnt in the dwarf enitity yet.

If this works with workshops, then you might be able to leave the workshop out of the enitity file untill you need it somewhere. You could mod in a 'blank' workshops with a number of 'blank' reactions that you can later modify and add to the entity.

[Shaostoul]

I can confirm that what Grimlocke says, is true. I have modded many reactions and buildings in before and have forgotten to add them to the entity, or just mistyped the name. I've also successfully removed reactions and buildings from the entity file. Not to bash on Deon's work, but I thought there were too many buildings for skill leveling and that they were getting too complex. /shrugs

I'll say it here, just as I've said it other places.

Adding new reactions, buildings, creatures, etc. require a new world. Regardless. If you add a new entry and try to have it show up in your already generated world, it's not happening.

Editing existing reactions, buildings, creatures, etc. mostly do not require a new world. Depends how extensive you're getting with your modding... I don't think you can add a new caste, but maybe. Also, you it is possible you won't see any of your changes to present dwarfs. Like if you mod dwarfs to be super hot and fire immune, you'll have to wait for your next migrant wave. (fire immune may be changeable on existing dwarfs) So those new migrants will be super hot, start forest fires, burn away water, warm stone, turn any items in their tile and one tile away from them into ash, etc. You can then mod it again for dwarfs to be extremely cold and have no cold damage point and they'll freeze anything that gets close to them.

Again, my motto is, 'If you don't know if it needs a new world, just gen a new world.' Also, just try it! Seriously near everything I know about DF is from me modding endlessly and figuring stuff out. I've probably logged more test hours than actual playing hours.