Asking someone to explain their actions means asking them to reveal their strategy.
If you say revealing your strategy reveals your role, obviously it's true.
Therefore, asking someone to explain themselves is rolefishing.
My entire attack was built on your seeming belief in this premise. Whether or not I believed it was irrelevant.
This confused me for a second.
No.(This is to me saying my role, no I am not. How did you get that? I meant that if I told him my strategy, it is based on my role.)
If I have a role, is it good to say it and then have the scum know?
No.
This isn't a valid excuse because it's a blanket excuse to not ever explain what you're doing. Why are you bandwagoning town? Shhhh, can't reveal my role. Why are you flagrantly lying? STOP ROLEFISHING SCUM. Why do you keep nightkilling confirmed townies? It's a secret, if I told you scum would gain an advantage.
Even if you have a powerful role, trying to hide from everyone else and do everything yourself doesn't work, Org. If you won't explain why you're doing anything, we'll have no choice but to assume you're up to no good and lynch you. Scum are working together by default, Org. If town can't do the same, they're going to lose.
Behind all your talk of strategy and working together, IronyOwl, is the most blatant case of rolefishing I've seen thus far. Explain yourself.
Imploring Org to give explanations for his actions and work more closely with the town is simply a loosely veiled request that he reveal his strategy. Given his declaration that revealing his strategy would reveal his role, which you were explicitly responding to, this equates to your asking him to reveal his role.
You're rolefishing.
Org said that, so I said that, so you said that, so I dared you to explain it, so you said that. At best, you're trying to use circular logic - IronyOwl is scum because he was rolefishing Org, which you know because he asked Org to explain himself, which scum would only do if he thought he could get his role out of it, which is how you know IronyOwl is scum. At worst, this is taking the hold your ground plan to sad new depths, by fairly literally trying to claim I said what you said instead of you.
That's all the evidence I need, but circumstantially, this was also in defense of Org, and to be blunt it makes more sense that you were defending your scumbuddy than that you actually think any of that's true. You've also got a quaint excuse for when I flip town- oh look! Cute lil noob IronyOwl got himself lynched. He's got nobody to blame but himself, certainly not poor honest Lonewolf.
Nowhere was I defending Org. I did use his statements against you, but only because they were clearly nonsense yet you were latching onto them as proof of his scumminess, which looked like an effort by scum to fabricate more proof. I also chose to move forward with it on the off-chance that you really were rolefishing, and just trying to hide it behind semantics. I didn't see anyone acting particularly scummy, so I had no reason to stop pushing you when you wouldn't cut the nonsense.
You were responding to my "attack" of him, which is what I believe is called a chainsaw defense. I also dare you to find another person who feels my elaborate explanation of why he had to act more townish was a desperate effort to call him scummy. In fact, I'd wager more people are suspicious of my helpful manner towards him than any relentless assault of him.
Trying to say you were pushing on the chance that I was rolefishing is a good answer, but it's a bit late for that. Especially since I don't know what "nonsense" you're talking about.
Mr. Person - You seemed mighty eager to defend me yesterday. I commented on it with a semi-humorous accusation of buddying, but didn't press the issue. However, seeing your passive opening today has made me reconsider. Did you kill Pandarsenic to try and frame me?
So when you do it, it's "nowhere did I defend Org" and when Mr.Person does it it's "mighty eager to defend me"? They both seemed like attacks on the attacker, wherein lies the difference?
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