Thank you Archangel for noticing that mistake. I meant Lonewolf but said IronyOwl. Everybody else seems to have glossed over that error, which frankly I find a little odd. Not scummy or anything... just odd. Also, I notice that you unvoted without voting a new player. Why is that?
@Lonewolf
You're defending IronyOwl but you try to make it "OK" by saying that the other party is wrong.
If one player is attacking another player and one of them makes a scummy mistake, yes, I'm going to attack them. It would actually be not ok to NOT attack a player doing something scummy.
Doesn't work like that, how can one appear to make someone "scummier" without going inside their mind and changing their posts somehow miraculously?
You can make someone appear scummier by attacking them and pointing out everything they've done that's scummy. Think of it this way; who APPEARS scummier, a guy who makes a scum-mistake with no fanfare or a guy who makes a scum mistake with 4 other guys yelling at him about how scummy he is?
But ok, replace "make someone appear scummier" with "attack" since that's pretty much what happens when you attack someone. Does that make the stick in your ass more confortable? Your problem seems to be my choice of words and not the content of what I'm saying.
I would also like people to bring me up in discussion more, I fall asleep for 8 or so hours and no one even mentions me.
This doesn't make it ok or anything, but generally people only think about lurkers or people who haven't posted when the people who ARE posting haven't appeared scummy.
Mr.Person:
Three problems with this:
(1) You edited IronyOwl's quote, and misquoted him at that. (IMO, cutting paragraphs is fine, formatting for emphasis is fine, anything else is not.)
He said it was a paraphrase.
(2) It's only your second post of the game.
Irrelevant. This is a character attack that in no way proves IronyOwl's attack to be incorrect.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not supposed to answer for other people. That's not what's going on, I'm FoSing Janus for bullshit. You make some good points, but those two bother me because they seem like the kind of attacks a person trying to make IronyOwl appear scummier than he actually is would say. You know, like scum trying to sling mud.
Are...are you buddying me?
No, actually, and I have no idea why, but this only makes me more suspiscious of you. If we'll just go and fix the quote to add emphasis on a specific key phrase (and to fix that mistake from earlier)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not supposed to answer for other people. That's not what's going on, I'm FoSing Janus for bullshit. You make some good points, but those two bother me because they seem like the kind of attacks a person trying to make Lonewolf appear scummier than he actually is would say. You know, like scum trying to sling mud.
Did you see it? Here it is again.
make Lonewolf appear scummier
So no, you're not clear on this by any stretch of the imagination. What's going on is that Janus tried to sling mud at you for shitty reasons and I'm calling him on those shitty reasons. If somebody brings forth some non-shitty reasons, things would be different.
@Janus:
He said it was a paraphrase.
If he wanted to paraphrase, I would have much rather he didn't use the quote tags. Quote =/= paraphrase. And I don't think he paraphrased, he changed the meaning. At this point, I guess it's up to you if you think it was paraphrasing or misquoting.
First off, in Lonewolf's mind, he was paraphrasing. That means that he was paraphrasing, end of story. If you want to attack him for his paraphrase, that's another issue entirely. But don't double whammy him and say that his paraphrase-turned-misquote is now being used improperly.
And in any event, does this even matter? Suppose Lonewolf is scum. In what way does him using quote tags in this manner prove he's scum? This just seems like you also having a stick up your ass but this time about people using quote tags with anything besides quotes in them.
(2) It's only your second post of the game.
Irrelevant. This is a character attack that in no way proves IronyOwl's attack to be incorrect.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not supposed to answer for other people. That's not what's going on, I'm FoSing Janus for bullshit. You make some good points, but those two bother me because they seem like the kind of attacks a person trying to make IronyOwl appear scummier than he actually is would say. You know, like scum trying to sling mud.
The second and third points are weak by themselves. All three together are what makes me suspicious.
But you seem to lack a smoking gun to tie this together. Considering your body of proof seems to be a style error, the fact we've left RVS recently, and a rule-of-thumb that tells you who to check closely, I fail to see why you even responded with an FoS.
Janus:
I comment on anything I see that looks even a little suspicious. Thus my tendency towards walls of text. In this case, it's a weak attack because it's weak evidence.
I have seen the behavior I described in games before--heck, I've used it myself a few times--but I'm leaning against it being the case this time.
If it was truly an attack, why didn't you question him on it, or if it's so weak you think it's not meaningful, why mention it?
I don't think it's important right now. It may become important in the future. I already have two people that I'm looking at, I don't want to focus too thinly.
OH NOES, NOT THREE PEOPLE! IT WOULD OVERLOAD MY TINY BRAIN! (ok, so this is me just insulting you, I admit that. But hey, it's fun.)
Here's the real juice:
So if it's not an attack, why did you say it? Why do you feel the need to run around saying shit about everyone but not follow up with an actual attack?
@Org:
If my strategy is to be purposefully obnoxious to see who doesn't do anything about it, is it not hunting scum?
Generally, scum will be less likely to go after me. Sure, maybe a stab here and there, but whats the point? He hurts town more when he is town?
Obviously, those who attack and then back off are probably scum.
Oh mah gawd I am so devious.
Unvote, vote Org. I'm just going to flat our admit this is a policy lynch. You don't try and look scummy on purpose. Ever. Trust me Org, you don't need any help in that regard.
Org sounds crazy. But not regular-Org-crazy, I mean he sounds crazier than that. So he has to be trying to sound crazy. The only reason you try and sound crazy is Refuge in Audacity. Nobody tries RiA except scum. So Org, who put you up to RiA?
I've seen Org do this shit so much it hurts. He says stupid shit to see if he can get away with it and surprise surprise, he does. Let's not let Org get away with stupid shit, ok?