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[Rolan7]

I've been watching StartUp for a week or two, I think it's kinda good.  It's about a weird triumvirate in Miami - a "banker"'s idealistic kid, a neurodivergent hacker, and a brilliant ganger who join forces to (keep mind this is fantasy) invent a cryptocurrency for the masses.  Parts of it remind me of San Andreas but the uniting theme is about actively defying stereotypes while utilizing (and working for!) one's unique community.
On Netflix

[Urist McScoopbeard]

I just saw Loki episode one. I am convinced that this is Marvel's white whale, I am not sure how this made it into production, and I doubt Disney-Marvel will ever produce something as good again. Obviously, only the first ep is out, so we will see how it develops, but like... just the core idea of the show, and it's execution is incredible. IMO, it also the best-looking piece of film/television I have ever seen.

12/10

[Jopax]

And 5 episodes later it's still going strong. Seriously, none of their earlier offerings managed to keep this level of interest or intrigue from me, even tho I'm kinda spoiled on what the most likely big bad is.

While I wasn't too hot about the other new Loki, they kinda grew on me over a few episodes and I honestly love the chemistry and dynamic the two Lokis have.

Plus the insane amount of fun little stuff they keep dropping in here and there, especially the latest episode was chock full of them (TV-8 says hi, as does Polybius). I'm kinda sad that it's 6 episodes only (tho it's understandable with the insane production value each episode has had) but it appears there's a second season coming as well, so there's that to look forward to (but that's also to be expected considering they have 1 episode left to resolve almost everything they've setup so far)

So yeah, Loki is damn good so far, with an interesting story and characters that I hope stick around for more than just the show (which is most likely going to happen if the rumors about the upcoming several movies are true)

[Urist McSpike]

I saw a comment in some quarantine thread, about one that I need to start watching...  The Night Manager.  2016.  Based on a Le Carre novel. Tom Hiddleston, Hugh Laurie.  Looks fantastic, and I'm amazed I never saw anything about it before.

[scriver]

I liked it a lot, do check it out!

[Folly]

Loki definitely gets my vote for best Marvel live action series to date.

My only minor complaint is that the pacing is too fast. Every episode takes place in a completely new setting and circumstances. At this rate I fear the story will end far too soon, and with this material they easily could have stretched it out across several seasons.

[Vector]

Supposedly it's to let T Hiddles leave cuz he doesn't want to play Loki anymore; I think that the growing pressure over portraying a canonically queer character as ... I dunno what, but not especially queer, is a growing problem for Disney.

I'll be honest, I basically gave up on Marvel when he got fridged in the first couple minutes of the Infinity War/Endgame movie, hence not wanting to see the series about my favorite gremlin. I understand queer characters are not forthcoming and that doesn't really make it hurt less.

Will I watch it?

Apparently yes, if I get a month of Disney-Plus free.

EDIT: OK, I agree, it's good. I saw the first two episodes and it doesn't even have that Marvel smell.

[Folly]

I finished binging Epix's War of the Worlds (2019) seasons one and two.

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The first two episodes are about aliens wiping out all of humanity, except those who happen to be underground at the time, which is somehow a lot. Last two episodes reveal that the whole alien invasion was part of a self-fulfilling prophecy that is absolutely overflowing with plot holes. Everything in between is survivors in a post-apocalyptic wasteland somehow finding reasons to kill each other instead of dealing with the aliens who are constantly hunting them down.

So yeah...pretty stupid. And somehow this dreck got renewed for a third season, despite wrapping everything up at the end of the second season.
I cannot recommend this one.

[Naturegirl1999]

It would be interesting if the third season was the previous seasons but from the aliens’ perspective, it’s probably not gonna be that though, note, haven’t watched the show at all

[ChairmanPoo]

Star wars the clone wars.

Tbh: just like rebels, I think Filoni's take on Star Wars is surprisingly good

[Jopax]

Right, just finished Loki, shit was great.

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Guess Kang is out of the bag now, interested in seeing how they incorporate this shit into the greater picture as he's been rumored to be the next big bad like Thanos was. Plus I wanna see what happens with our two Lokis next more than anything, because that part was easily as interesting as the freaky time fuckery.

[Vector]

Right, just finished Loki, shit was great.

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Guess Kang is out of the bag now, interested in seeing how they incorporate this shit into the greater picture as he's been rumored to be the next big bad like Thanos was. Plus I wanna see what happens with our two Lokis next more than anything, because that part was easily as interesting as the freaky time fuckery.

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I was vaguely interested in the Loki, King of Time concept. I hope we get more RELEASE THE GOATS Loki and not just Romantic Lead Loki.

[Jopax]

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Yeah I'm still wrapping my head around that last scene they had, probably going to rewatch the entire show soon.
See, I wanted them to have some sort of buddy-cop or platonic love thing going on, two Lokis against the world, didn't have to be romantic in any way, but I guess that'd be giving Marvel a bit too much credit. As great as the show was, it's still a part of the MCU and they're nothing if not predictable in terms of playing it safe.
I'm guessing she either redeems herself trough the second season or ends up dead by the end of it. Our Loki has clearly grown and learned trough this one, she appeared to have done so as well but it turned out to be a ruse I guess? Which, again, damn shame, would've loved to see the two of them (and Mobius and co) trying to unfuck what they've fucked up royally, but that'll probably be left to the movie folk if the titles are anything to go by (or they might appear in those too, both the upcoming Dr. Strange and Spider-Man movie seem likely candidates, while Kang seems to be confirmed for the next Ant-Man movie)

Anyways, despite the several issues that've popped up on further analysis I still think this is by far some of the best stuff they've done to date, partly because almost none of their previous attempts (movie or otherwise) have left me with so many questions and a pretty strong desire to figure out the answers.

[Vector]

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Yeah I'm still wrapping my head around that last scene they had, probably going to rewatch the entire show soon.
See, I wanted them to have some sort of buddy-cop or platonic love thing going on, two Lokis against the world, didn't have to be romantic in any way, but I guess that'd be giving Marvel a bit too much credit. As great as the show was, it's still a part of the MCU and they're nothing if not predictable in terms of playing it safe.
I'm guessing she either redeems herself trough the second season or ends up dead by the end of it. Our Loki has clearly grown and learned trough this one, she appeared to have done so as well but it turned out to be a ruse I guess? Which, again, damn shame, would've loved to see the two of them (and Mobius and co) trying to unfuck what they've fucked up royally, but that'll probably be left to the movie folk if the titles are anything to go by (or they might appear in those too, both the upcoming Dr. Strange and Spider-Man movie seem likely candidates, while Kang seems to be confirmed for the next Ant-Man movie)

Anyways, despite the several issues that've popped up on further analysis I still think this is by far some of the best stuff they've done to date, partly because almost none of their previous attempts (movie or otherwise) have left me with so many questions and a pretty strong desire to figure out the answers.

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Yeah, I totally agree about the platonic buddy-cop thing, that would've been great. I agree that Kang will probably get resolved through movies as a Big Big Bad, so I'm sort of wondering if they'll use Lady Loki (Sylvie) as a main antagonist while Lord Loki, uh, does timey-wimey bullshit. They've already made that reference while calling Loki a "criminal with a blue box," so basically ... Dr. Who for the MCU? Yeah, that tracks.

If Kang was being honest then after the multiverse war is resolved, someone will have to be in charge of the TVA, and it's true that Loki is a good person to do that. Plus, it's a position where he can come in occasionally ŕ la Dr. Strange without needing to be a leading face all the time.

Thing is that they need someone for Loki to play against that isn't Thor, so while I agree that Lady Loki could easily get canned/redeemed, it would also make sense to me that they use her indefinitely as an "opposite force" to keep things lively.

Finally: I would love it if the whole Jotunn thing came up again at some point.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

Feeling somewhat ambivalent about Loki honestly...

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on one hand, I actually think Kang's introduction was pretty fire... what I hope doesn't happen is some kind of multiversal war plot though... I think that's a little boring and too pulpy for me. In the end, I suppose, Marvel just couldn't control themselves. Other Kangs invading is fine, I just don't want 10 Kangs fighting each other... eh. On the OTHER hand, I am very disappointed we are not getting more detective TVA Loki & Mobius... it was down to earth... and funny... and 'small'. Like... I'm not mad that things went where they did specifically... just that everything inevitably had to spiral into yet another existential threat. I'm so tired of them, other stories are possible... as proven by the first half of this season lol... well lost forever to the fires I suppose. So yea, ambivalence... the best work Marvel has done? I still think so. Do I like where things are heading? No. At best, I will say I'm worried, and at worst I'll say it's classic American Writers Syndrome... just gotta keep making the threats bigger, threaten existence harder, etc. It's so unnecessary.