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Virex

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Re: The concept of good & evil
« Reply #60 on: July 26, 2010, 07:04:57 pm »

Actually it wasn't. Does that make me mad? :P
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Re: The concept of good & evil
« Reply #61 on: July 26, 2010, 07:21:17 pm »

I think it was the whole posting on bay 12 thing that made you mad.
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Re: The concept of good & evil
« Reply #62 on: July 26, 2010, 07:39:47 pm »

They're more pragmatic than they are evil.

Dunno.  It depends on if you consider this sort of overreaction evil or not:

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Yeah, I don't think so.  An inability to deal with annoyances in any way but wanton destruction seems more immature than pragmatic to me.

Okay, so I totally did not see that.
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Re: The concept of good & evil
« Reply #63 on: July 27, 2010, 05:34:28 am »

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Re: The concept of good & evil
« Reply #64 on: July 27, 2010, 09:06:40 am »

Hey all stop it , you're disturbing nikov.

It's well know that good is god's will and the founding father will and evil is socialism, communism, and everything that is remotly liberal.
Ho wait stop, comrade chavez is calling. Now good is communism, don't questioning comrade chavez, sharing with your brother, don't questioning comrade chavez, equality and don't fucking question comrade chavez.
Stop, I've got Jesus on line : good is god's will, loving everyone as yourself, forgive those whose have done wrong, respect your elder. Good, now let's launch a crusade to crush every evil being who don't adhere to this obviously perfect way to live.

You've got the idea : State's rule of good and evil is what the state want you to do, philosopher's good and evil is what they think to be right and wrong, given their life experience (which don't prevent it to backfire spectacularly) and individual rule of good and evil usually don't even make sense because, face it, we are not at all qualified to think to everything.

So you can use this lousy concept or generally try to see the advantage and inconvenience of your action and act accordingly.

Edit: I would be great to tone down he "angsty teen" comment every time someone bring up a new philosophical topic.
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Re: The concept of good & evil
« Reply #65 on: July 27, 2010, 11:15:38 am »

Hey all stop it , you're disturbing nikov.

It's well know that good is god's will and the founding father will and evil is socialism, communism, and everything that is remotly liberal.
Ho wait stop, comrade chavez is calling. Now good is communism, don't questioning comrade chavez, sharing with your brother, don't questioning comrade chavez, equality and don't fucking question comrade chavez.
Stop, I've got Jesus on line : good is god's will, loving everyone as yourself, forgive those whose have done wrong, respect your elder. Good, now let's launch a crusade to crush every evil being who don't adhere to this obviously perfect way to live.

You've got the idea : State's rule of good and evil is what the state want you to do, philosopher's good and evil is what they think to be right and wrong, given their life experience (which don't prevent it to backfire spectacularly) and individual rule of good and evil usually don't even make sense because, face it, we are not at all qualified to think to everything.

So you can use this lousy concept or generally try to see the advantage and inconvenience of your action and act accordingly.

Edit: I would be great to tone down he "angsty teen" comment every time someone bring up a new philosophical topic.
I know you're all battle hardened videogamer forged in the heat of action but there is some poeple that like and value them.

Like and value what? Your argument is extremely vague. You didn't even present your view on the topic at hand. If you did, I can't find it.
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Re: The concept of good & evil
« Reply #66 on: July 27, 2010, 11:38:47 am »

My view on it is : keep it simple, non absolute, and only for mater you fully comprehend.
Good and evil is a concept usually used to manipulate you ; I prefer to try to grasp the causes and consequences, and choose the option that suit me best, instead of reasoning in term of moral absolute.

Like and value these topics, there have been a lot of post dismissing his topic as a "angsty teen" concern. 
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« Reply #67 on: July 27, 2010, 11:48:43 am »

That makes a lot of sense. Though I don't always choose the options that benefit me, I don't hold anything against those who do. Also, people really interested in philosophical discussion wouldn't dismiss it as teenage angst.
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Re: The concept of good & evil
« Reply #68 on: July 27, 2010, 11:57:58 am »

Suit me is very general : It suit me to donate to an homeless guy because it's heartwarming, or to support strong social care policies, because it benefit me in some way. I'm also confident that most things considered "good" by the society will benefit me in the long term (help shall often be returned and such, but for instance, if it's not, then I won't help this person/group again).

 
Also, people really interested in philosophical discussion wouldn't dismiss it as teenage angst.

Yes I know, but there is lot of post from poeple that are not interested, and disregard those who are.
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Re: The concept of good & evil
« Reply #69 on: July 27, 2010, 11:58:47 am »

Besides, while dealing with philosophic topics, "It's just angst, you'll get over it" is completely missing the point of puberty as a phase in which one starts to develop fundamental concepts, such as the nature of good and evil, as an individual instead of copying it from role models.
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« Reply #70 on: July 27, 2010, 12:05:54 pm »

Hey all stop it , you're disturbing nikov.

Yeah, cut it out y'all.

Stop having fun guys!
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Re: The concept of good & evil
« Reply #71 on: July 27, 2010, 06:14:01 pm »

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