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Re: Third World Farmer
« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2010, 01:33:18 pm »

Your family members work in hard labor all year, dealing with wound infection and such. Not a good diet in that kind of area, either. That all could take it's toll without treatment.
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Re: Third World Farmer
« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2010, 04:55:21 pm »

I fail to see how humans survived this long if we needed medicine as often as the family you play as.
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Re: Third World Farmer
« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2010, 05:35:59 pm »

Meh.  First time, 15 turn victory.  3 of each crop each day, and upgrades asap.
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Re: Third World Farmer
« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2010, 07:48:18 pm »

I played this game (Third World Farmer) a couple of years back and I failed miserably repeatedly. I took the message to heart and decided to never buy a farm in a third world country. I tried it again today and won immediately. At first I thought this must have been the easy version but it seems succes is largely random.
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Re: Third World Farmer
« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2010, 08:12:46 pm »

I fail to see how humans survived this long if we needed medicine as often as the family you play as.

Either not farmers, or as a community. Also, without randomly chosen human menaces, and in better farmlands. And not on grown crops alone, either.
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« Reply #50 on: August 04, 2010, 09:23:28 pm »

I fail to see how humans survived this long if we needed medicine as often as the family you play as.
Humans didn't need medicine more than the occasional herbal remedy before medicine was invented. Most diseases didn't come into existence until after the development of cities, and medicine was developed to counter them. The diseases faced by a modern third world farmer are much greater than those faced by an ancient first world farmer.
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« Reply #51 on: August 04, 2010, 10:05:29 pm »

Lovely, nice to know that once civilisation ends we're all screwed because we can't make more meds.
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« Reply #52 on: August 05, 2010, 06:35:27 am »

I played this game (Third World Farmer) a couple of years back and I failed miserably repeatedly. I took the message to heart and decided to never buy a farm in a third world country. I tried it again today and won immediately. At first I thought this must have been the easy version but it seems succes is largely random.
Not really. It's not that hard to win. All you have to do is spend all your cash on harvests early on (so that civil wars, paramilitaries, and corrupt officials dont hurt you too much, and you keep generating cash). Ignore animals until late on in the game. Keep just basic tools (donkey plows at most, and those when you are making cash). Reject all offers of work in the city. Accept all other cash offers. Get the road and communication network improvements asap. After that, representative (protection from guerrillas and corrupt officials). Early on do cheap harvests, but try to move asap to filling the field with a combo of cotton and penauts.
Doing that you are set.  I just won in 11 turns.
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« Reply #53 on: August 05, 2010, 12:19:06 pm »

I fail to see how humans survived this long if we needed medicine as often as the family you play as.
Humans didn't need medicine more than the occasional herbal remedy before medicine was invented. Most diseases didn't come into existence until after the development of cities, and medicine was developed to counter them. The diseases faced by a modern third world farmer are much greater than those faced by an ancient first world farmer.

Lol, I guess that explains where there's so much starvation in third world countries. All the farmers are dying from sickness and guerrilla fighters stealing their crops.
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Re: Third World Farmer
« Reply #54 on: August 05, 2010, 12:34:35 pm »

Back before medicine 40 was venerable age.
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« Reply #55 on: August 05, 2010, 01:47:54 pm »

I played this game (Third World Farmer) a couple of years back and I failed miserably repeatedly. I took the message to heart and decided to never buy a farm in a third world country. I tried it again today and won immediately. At first I thought this must have been the easy version but it seems succes is largely random.
Not really. It's not that hard to win. All you have to do is spend all your cash on harvests early on (so that civil wars, paramilitaries, and corrupt officials dont hurt you too much, and you keep generating cash). Ignore animals until late on in the game. Keep just basic tools (donkey plows at most, and those when you are making cash). Reject all offers of work in the city. Accept all other cash offers. Get the road and communication network improvements asap. After that, representative (protection from guerrillas and corrupt officials). Early on do cheap harvests, but try to move asap to filling the field with a combo of cotton and penauts.
Doing that you are set.  I just won in 11 turns.

Haha.. I tried that.
I won in 9 turns and with the score of 915.
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Re: Third World Farmer
« Reply #56 on: August 05, 2010, 02:24:37 pm »

JUST finished my TWF game.

100 turns, built everything, 100,000,000 dollars (Insert successful TWFarmer here), maximum kids, 3 Elderly people, One Original family member, maximum health, MAX tools, MAX livestock...

I just won this game.

Now you just need to get out of the country without getting robbed to hell.  Maybe you could ask someone if they could hold on to $100,000,000 while you move out of the country and offer them like 10% of it or something.  All you'll need is their bank account info.  By the way, there's no max on kids.  If your current wife/husband are too old to have kids, have them leave.  Make a different male your head, and have him marry.  You can always have kids so long as there aren't 8 family members.
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« Reply #57 on: August 05, 2010, 07:27:56 pm »

i got 8 people in my family, and then no one would marry or have kids.  so i sent two people away, and another 10 turns went by without any elidgeable spouses becoming available.

it seems like marriage breaks after you hit max population, so never go up to max capacity.

also, is education good for anything?  i know it gives better jobs if you have people leave the farm, but job income is generally a drop in the bucket compared to what the additional labor multiplier is worth on the farm.  does education also let people do more labor?  i cant tell.
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Re: Third World Farmer
« Reply #58 on: August 06, 2010, 02:45:34 am »

It's possible to gamble at the start and get lucky, letting you cost to a rosey future.  The problem is that if you gamble and fail, you doom yourself to a vicious cycle slowly leading to sickness and starvation.

My biggest problem with the game is that it doesn't reflect the number of crops you plant onto your work efficiency.  If I'm sick and only able to do half as much work, I'd  only plant half as many fields instead of getting half as much out of my crops.  Since seed costs are prohibitively high when you are struggling, this makes a huge difference.  All in all the game isn't balanced to reflect the real difficulties, it's easy when it's easy and impossible when it's hard.  All that matters is luck in the first few turns.
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Re: Third World Farmer
« Reply #59 on: August 06, 2010, 04:00:32 am »

I don't understand why some of this stuff is happening in the later end of the game. Why are my guys dropping 20% in health all the time? We live in the lap of luxury! We don't suffer from malnutrition like some poor family! Do you know how many barns we have? How many barns do you have, you fascist American pig-dog? None? We have six barns! Do you know how many barns we could buy? We could buy EIGHT HUNDRED BARNS! We could subsist on nothing but purified barn essence! We could make cutting-edge broad-spectrum antivirals with nothing but ground up barns! We have so many barns we subsist entirely on elephants! No, they don't plow our crops or anything, we have bred special elephants that poop money! That's how rich we are! We don't plant crops any more! Sometimes mobs get angry and burn down all our buildings and elephants! We don't hire security to keep the mobs away! Know why? When they burn everything down WE JUST BUY THEM AGAIN! It's a drop in the bucket of our cash reserves! Gold bullion oozes out of our every orifice! How are we still subject to this kind of debilitating illness?!!?

And, you know, someone who's been educated all his life and who is bringing in ~5 barns a year is honestly worth a lot more than $50 in advance for a job. Stuff like that.

By the way, the fastest way to earn points seems to me to do this (assuming you built up enough cash already):
Buy 6 barns, a well, and 4 harvesters.
Buy 8 elephants.
Have a man and wife and 5 children.
Each year, have a baby, then abandon it in a dumpster. Plant a few crops to ward off mobs (not to save money, more for convenience). Have all the children go to school. When they reach 16/10 years of schooling, sell them into slavery for about $50 or so, and replace them with new stock. I think marriage might be useful too, but it probably takes so long to wait for good candidates that you might as well just have babies immediately and get more schooling in.
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