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Re: Third World Farmer
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2010, 03:18:01 pm »



Your entire succes has absolutely nothing to do with skill but the luck that you don't get a negative event that completely negates your investment and starts you the following turn without enough money for anything.



I think that is kind of the point.......
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« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2010, 03:26:27 pm »

Does anyone remember the name of that other game where you start as a random person anywhere throughout the world and just try to survive? It's in the same vein as this game..
Real Lives, you mean?
I remember that. I tried making a Middle-Eastern guy do pretty much nothing but athletics, politics, and religion throughout his teen years. Oddly, he never joined Al-Queda. In fact, he showed absolutely no inclination towards any kind of violence or political activism. Then again, his life was going pretty decent overall.

I don't think the 'Social Activism' option means 'Actively support groups Westerners disagree with', because as a Chinese player born just before World War Two, it got me jailed over and over before I finally decided to just give up and emigrate to Canada.

Real Life 2007 is kind of boring, though. I mean, always playing as an Indian or Chinese person is monotonous, but it's okay because it reflects real world population statistics. However, after a while you realize you're not doing anything but clicking a button over and over and over again, ocassionally having to go into the spending tab to undo the automatic switching to insane levels of consumption. Your success is entirely dependent on what random events happen, and you get no control.

I'd also like to know what year it is, to give me at least SOME perspective of what's going on.

Most fun game I had was being born in the United States, getting married, and emigrating to Afghanistan and Jamaica for kicks and giggles.
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Re: Third World Farmer
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2010, 03:31:32 pm »

Except that most roguelikes can be even worse, and this game fails to properly emuate either reality or a decent game (choices monthly at least, more but smaller events, community options extending to AI players, decisions(strike back at the invaders with shapened tools? Keep funds hidden offsite for emergencies? Reinforce the well to prevent collapse? Partial disasters? Move to a different country? Start a shoe factory of child labour and become rich working for <company> on the corpses of the "unfortunate" babies that were worked to death? Orbital nuclear obliteration?)...

The only point I can see, and it is quite sad, is that sometimes poor, reality deluded, game designers try to make a point with a game that hilariously is neither a decent game nor the intended message.
Couldn't they have had the classic "holding shift when making something keeps it selected for rapid construction"?
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Re: Third World Farmer
« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2010, 03:43:02 pm »

This was kinda easy in my opinion. Nothing really bad happened to me.
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« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2010, 03:50:07 pm »

Except that most roguelikes can be even worse, and this game fails to properly emuate either reality or a decent game (choices monthly at least, more but smaller events, community options extending to AI players, decisions(strike back at the invaders with shapened tools? Keep funds hidden offsite for emergencies? Reinforce the well to prevent collapse? Partial disasters? Move to a different country? Start a shoe factory of child labour and become rich working for <company> on the corpses of the "unfortunate" babies that were worked to death? Orbital nuclear obliteration?)...

The only point I can see, and it is quite sad, is that sometimes poor, reality deluded, game designers try to make a point with a game that hilariously is neither a decent game nor the intended message.
Couldn't they have had the classic "holding shift when making something keeps it selected for rapid construction"?

what? ???
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Re: Third World Farmer
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2010, 05:19:54 pm »

Except that most roguelikes can be even worse, and this game fails to properly emuate either reality or a decent game (choices monthly at least, more but smaller events, community options extending to AI players, decisions(strike back at the invaders with shapened tools? Keep funds hidden offsite for emergencies? Reinforce the well to prevent collapse? Partial disasters? Move to a different country? Start a shoe factory of child labour and become rich working for <company> on the corpses of the "unfortunate" babies that were worked to death? Orbital nuclear obliteration?)...

The only point I can see, and it is quite sad, is that sometimes poor, reality deluded, game designers try to make a point with a game that hilariously is neither a decent game nor the intended message.
Couldn't they have had the classic "holding shift when making something keeps it selected for rapid construction"?

what? ???

There are two separate games being talked about in this topic.
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Re: Third World Farmer
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2010, 05:26:02 pm »

Hey, I was just answering a question, don't blame me for the thread evolving into some binary fission megabeast and splitting in two!
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« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2010, 12:27:36 am »

I just started as a chinese girl in real lives, and after I completed secondary school I tried to marry my lover but it turned out she was also a woman. So I escaped to Sweden where I went to college, and in the middle of graduate school I got raped. Obviously, I tried to marry my new lover and it turns out that even Sweden wouldn't let me, so I walked on over to the Netherlands with my massive amounts of money from my job as a doctor, and eventually married someone there. She died when I was 60, and I married her sister. I spent most my life living in opulent conditions.

I thought that game was called real lives :P
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Re: Third World Farmer
« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2010, 01:29:51 am »

This TWF game, it's actually not chanced much.

You need to put down the right crops, that cost little in the beginning. You need the right balance of crops so that if a crop fails, you can still recover. I did this, and almost every year I lost a crop type. So in the end I ended up investing in livestock, and made it big. Tools are important, and so is education. Communications and Roads help a lot too.

In other words, strategically buy your crops so that you can cover the costs of all the crop types, simultaneously.

I've never gotten below 100$ with this method, and my original 1st generation child is still kicking around on the farm after 60 years. The mom, too. 80 years.
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« Reply #39 on: July 30, 2010, 11:39:18 am »

27 turns, 5 kids, 36 years in school, built every thing.
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Re: Third World Farmer
« Reply #40 on: July 30, 2010, 01:02:39 pm »

JUST finished my TWF game.

100 turns, built everything, 100,000,000 dollars (Insert successful TWFarmer here), maximum kids, 3 Elderly people, One Original family member, maximum health, MAX tools, MAX livestock...

I just won this game.
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« Reply #41 on: July 30, 2010, 01:24:14 pm »

My wells would always collapse. Every single time I build one. It's like yeah, I get it. It's hard to be a poor African farmer- but I'd expect that the third time they dig a well, it'd STAY dug.
You're not digging a well in a swamp by any chance?
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« Reply #42 on: July 30, 2010, 01:45:49 pm »

JUST finished my TWF game.

100 turns, built everything, 100,000,000 dollars (Insert successful TWFarmer here), maximum kids, 3 Elderly people, One Original family member, maximum health, MAX tools, MAX livestock...

I just won this game.

I believe that you may have found the solution to have destitute parts of Africa grow with an agrarian economy.
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Re: Third World Farmer
« Reply #43 on: August 04, 2010, 01:29:07 pm »

I don't get this whole "without a constant influx of medicine, everyone dies" approach to health.
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Re: Third World Farmer
« Reply #44 on: August 04, 2010, 01:32:59 pm »

I don't get this whole "without a constant influx of medicine, everyone dies" approach to health.

I take it you've never tried living in a tropical cesspool, surrounded by livestock, eating a very limited diet, and foregoing all vaccination?  Protip: you needs some medicines.
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