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Author Topic: Fight to the Death: [ROUND SIX: TEX VS DR.CLEF]  (Read 58892 times)

Josephus

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Re: Fight to the Death: Actual combat edition [ACCEPTING SUBMISSIONS]
« Reply #75 on: July 20, 2010, 10:54:06 pm »

That's a bit narrow. Gilgamesh, King of Uruk, is clearly far above tenth level.
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Re: Fight to the Death: Actual combat edition [ACCEPTING SUBMISSIONS]
« Reply #76 on: July 20, 2010, 10:54:10 pm »

Let put all char on a power scale useing DnD levels and than ban any that are above... say five or so, ten at the most.

What we have in place works well enough. Your methods would remove pretty much every character ever.
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Re: Fight to the Death: Actual combat edition [ACCEPTING SUBMISSIONS]
« Reply #77 on: July 20, 2010, 10:54:40 pm »

Here be Gilgamesh's Epic.
Are we allowed more than one submission? If so, here is Asmodeus, Lord of Baator. (D&D's version of 'hell'.) According to the article linked, he is 13 feet tall and thus fits.
Asmodeus can cast Wish, I believe. That makes him a god. Not to mention his ridiculous damage reduction. Would he be a fair entry?
Actually, no. Godhood requires Wishes from at least two beings, and I highly doubt anyone would join him in wishing him to be a God. Considering that he was wounded by the fall to Baator, I assume he can be harmed by other means.
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Re: Fight to the Death: Actual combat edition [ACCEPTING SUBMISSIONS]
« Reply #78 on: July 20, 2010, 10:56:44 pm »

Let put all char on a power scale useing DnD levels and than ban any that are above... say five or so, ten at the most.
That's just boringly low. We would have to pick nothing but skilled, yet ordinary, humans.
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Re: Fight to the Death: Actual combat edition [ACCEPTING SUBMISSIONS]
« Reply #79 on: July 20, 2010, 10:57:30 pm »

40 would be a good cutoff level.  ;)
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Re: Fight to the Death: Actual combat edition [ACCEPTING SUBMISSIONS]
« Reply #80 on: July 20, 2010, 10:57:50 pm »

Here be Gilgamesh's Epic.
Are we allowed more than one submission? If so, here is Asmodeus, Lord of Baator. (D&D's version of 'hell'.) According to the article linked, he is 13 feet tall and thus fits.
Asmodeus can cast Wish, I believe. That makes him a god. Not to mention his ridiculous damage reduction. Would he be a fair entry?
Actually, no. Godhood requires Wishes from at least two beings, and I highly doubt anyone would join him in wishing him to be a God. Considering that he was wounded by the fall to Baator, I assume he can be harmed by other means.

Theres also the fact that his blood which falls on the ground, spawns pit feinds, so, any fight against him would pretty quickly become one-sided as he would have allies. Unless that only applies to his home plane or something.

@Barbarossa, not everybody would understand how the DnD power levels work.
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Re: Fight to the Death: Actual combat edition [ACCEPTING SUBMISSIONS]
« Reply #81 on: July 20, 2010, 10:58:10 pm »

Here be Gilgamesh's Epic.
Are we allowed more than one submission? If so, here is Asmodeus, Lord of Baator. (D&D's version of 'hell'.) According to the article linked, he is 13 feet tall and thus fits.
Asmodeus can cast Wish, I believe. That makes him a god. Not to mention his ridiculous damage reduction. Would he be a fair entry?
Actually, no. Godhood requires Wishes from at least two beings, and I highly doubt anyone would join him in wishing him to be a God. Considering that he was wounded by the fall to Baator, I assume he can be harmed by other means.

True, the remember the Pact Primeval? Asmodeus basically blackmailed the gods into giving him souls as food, but trickily.

Asmodeus is a background chessmaster, but he's still by far the most powerful of the 9. I'm pretty sure he could hand Bahamut his ass in a straight-up fight, for example. Wouldn't being able to wipe the floor with a deity technically count as godlike?

Let put all char on a power scale useing DnD levels and than ban any that are above... say five or so, ten at the most.
That's just boringly low. We would have to pick nothing but skilled, yet ordinary, humans.

I dunno, tenth level wizards and sorcerers are terrifying already, especially to ordinary humans.
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« Reply #82 on: July 20, 2010, 11:00:27 pm »

The system in place works. Remember: Executive Meddling is VERY rarely a good thing.
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Re: Fight to the Death: Actual combat edition [ACCEPTING SUBMISSIONS]
« Reply #83 on: July 20, 2010, 11:01:06 pm »

Here be Gilgamesh's Epic.
Are we allowed more than one submission? If so, here is Asmodeus, Lord of Baator. (D&D's version of 'hell'.) According to the article linked, he is 13 feet tall and thus fits.
Asmodeus can cast Wish, I believe. That makes him a god. Not to mention his ridiculous damage reduction. Would he be a fair entry?
Actually, no. Godhood requires Wishes from at least two beings, and I highly doubt anyone would join him in wishing him to be a God. Considering that he was wounded by the fall to Baator, I assume he can be harmed by other means.

True, the remember the Pact Primeval? Asmodeus basically blackmailed the gods into giving him souls as food, but trickily.

Asmodeus is a background chessmaster, but he's still by far the most powerful of the 9. I'm pretty sure he could hand Bahamut his ass in a straight-up fight, for example. Wouldn't being able to wipe the floor with a deity technically count as godlike?

No, I don't remember, I don't even know about it. I only know a little bit about DnD, and I'm going off of what was said on the wiki page for him.
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Re: Fight to the Death: Actual combat edition [ACCEPTING SUBMISSIONS]
« Reply #84 on: July 20, 2010, 11:02:24 pm »

Let put all char on a power scale useing DnD levels and than ban any that are above... say five or so, ten at the most.

What we have in place works well enough. Your methods would remove pretty much every character ever.

A quick skim though the list and the only chars who looks like they can be over even level five are Colonel Roy Mustang and Terra Branford.

@Barbarossa, not everybody would understand how the DnD power levels work.

Is that a smack at me or Barbarossa?
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Re: Fight to the Death: Actual combat edition [ACCEPTING SUBMISSIONS]
« Reply #85 on: July 20, 2010, 11:02:47 pm »

That's a bit narrow. Gilgamesh, King of Uruk, is clearly far above tenth level.
Not really.  You could make him pretty well at tenth.  Assuming low optimization, of course.


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True, the remember the Pact Primeval? Asmodeus basically blackmailed the gods into giving him souls as food, but trickily.
No, it's that everyone was a collective idiot for several thousand years except for him.
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« Reply #86 on: July 20, 2010, 11:04:19 pm »

Yes, the gods were idiots.

No, I don't remember, I don't even know about it. I only know a little bit about DnD, and I'm going off of what was said on the wiki page for him.

Essentially, the reason Lawful Evil souls go to Baator is because Asmodeus persuaded the gods that they needed terrible punishment when he was still an angel. He's a devil now. Baator uses souls as currency and power.
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« Reply #87 on: July 20, 2010, 11:05:32 pm »

Cause you know if gods did not get instant "I Win Buttons" they would have a CR of around 30 for the lower level ones.
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Re: Fight to the Death: Actual combat edition [ACCEPTING SUBMISSIONS]
« Reply #88 on: July 20, 2010, 11:05:39 pm »

Let put all char on a power scale useing DnD levels and than ban any that are above... say five or so, ten at the most.

What we have in place works well enough. Your methods would remove pretty much every character ever.

A quick skim though the list and the only chars who looks like they can be over even level five are Colonel Roy Mustang and Terra Branford.

The fact that your rule is more or less specifically aimed at my character makes this feel more like a personal attack than a real suggestion. And even if it is it's restrictive to a stupidly high degree.
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Re: Fight to the Death: Actual combat edition [ACCEPTING SUBMISSIONS]
« Reply #89 on: July 20, 2010, 11:06:06 pm »

@Barbarossa, not everybody would understand how the DnD power levels work.
Suffice to say that 40th level cannot be attained easily. In fact, it is the 'max' level covered in any rulebook. A 40th level character could begin and end worlds with a spell, and flatten gods.

I'll do some research to see how Asmodeus would fare against Bahamut.
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