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[Heron TSG]

You're talking about Orks like they're flimsy balloons ready to pop. Do you not remember that these guys regularly receive blows from armor piercing exploding machine guns and keep going? The chainsaw swords? The power weapons?

Exploding bullets, power weapons, and chainswords are mere bludgeoning (in the case of explosions) and slashing weapons. A piercing weapon would be more effective at piercing the skin. Asides from that, the ability to keep going doesn't necessarily dictate the strength of an injury. As I said before, it doesn't matter if you don't feel pain if you're bleeding out.

You say that like Orks are unable to cauterize or clot their wounds. Space Marines do that in mere seconds. I imagine an Ork wound wouldn't be bleeding for more than ten to twenty seconds. And I don't know what strange land you come from, but a slashing wound is far more likely to cause far more bleeding than a stab in the gut. And Power Swords are capable of piercing, depending on the design. Really now, you're trying to tell me that a chainsaw is less effective than a bronze spear on flesh. That's just not true.

And another thing about explosions: They're explosions. Ajax took swords and spears like they were nothing, but when you start bringing rocket propelled grenades into the equation he's goop.

You say that like Orks have built in flamethrowers to burn their wounds shut on command. I didn't say that a slashing weapon would cause less bleeding, I said it would cause a deeper wound, which would be harder to heal, and would more likely penetrate muscle. Rocket Propelled Grenades are moot though, because neither side has them.

Also, I think there was a ruling earlier about technologies meeting halfway. So it's possible that Ajax could be wielding a Chainsword and Power Lance instead of a bronze Xothos and Greatspear.

[CJ1145]

I brought up the grenades to give you an idea of the kind of insane things Orks can survive. Remember, these guys love to fight. Even if you inflict a fatal wound that's no guarantee it's going to stop him.

[Heron TSG]

Even if you inflict a fatal wound that's no guarantee it's going to stop him.

Now I'm confused. They can fight after a wound that causes death?

[dragnar]

I believe he means a fatal wound for a human. An ork wouldn't die from simply having an organ or two pierced, not for a while at least.

[Spartan 117]

Even the lowest Shoota Orks can sustain pretty immense punishment. Snikrot is an Ork Kommando Boss, who survived fifty years on a hostile planet armed only with a pair of swords. Orks get bigger and stronger and tougher as they age, meaning Snikrot could well be up to boulder throwing levels.

[Heron TSG]

Snikrot is an Ork Kommando Boss, who survived fifty years on a hostile planet armed only with a pair of swords.

And a a gang of Kommandos to help him do it.

[Luke_Prowler]

Considering the Might is Right mentality of Ork hierarchy, having other Kommandos around him is just a formality

[Spartan 117]

Snikrot is an Ork Kommando Boss, who survived fifty years on a hostile planet armed only with a pair of swords.

And a a gang of Kommandos to help him do it.

A gang of Kommandos also armed only with swords or similar.

Against Imperial Guardsmen with tanks and autocannons.

[Luke_Prowler]

Snikrot is an Ork Kommando Boss, who survived fifty years on a hostile planet armed only with a pair of swords.

And a a gang of Kommandos to help him do it.

A gang of Kommandos also armed only with swords or similar.

Against Imperial Guardsmen with tanks and autocannons.

And Space Marines, with rapid fire minture armor piercing explosive rocket gun and chainswords.

[RAM]

I would expect orks to clot their ooze pretty quickly, although, bear in mind, that the orks are supposed to be the ultimate weapon with the WHAAAAAGH!. Optimising them for that would leave them being a touch impractical without it...

[Josephus]

Does anyone want me to make the decision now, or would you rather keep arguing?

[Luke_Prowler]

Lets take a vote for it. If you want the argument to end, just post "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!"

[RAM]

We could keep arguing forever, just do whatever you feel like...

[CJ1145]

No no, Luke. It's five A's, then add one A for every extra 100 Orks present beyond the first 1,000. So in this case, it's just "WAAAAAGH!"

[Spartan 117]

WAAAAAGH!