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[Josephus]

Gut's rage and superior strength are no match for centuries of Greek martial tradition. Even his inner demon can't withstand a javelin to the jugular!

[Diablous]

I meant the vote as a joke, why are all you guys voting?

My guess, they didn't properly read the first post and assumed this was like the other thread.

[Heron TSG]

Ajax held off the entire Trojan Army (and Hector) by himself twice without being wounded, and he did so while being the only main character never to get help from a God(dess). I think he can handle one guy, especially considering that Bronze is nearly as good as steel. Guts is also unarmored, and thus his organs are fair game for Ajax's greatspear. (Or chariot-sized boulders, either one.)

[Josephus]

Yeah, Ajax, like Diomedes, Hector, Achilles, and I believe Odysseus, fights by hurling fucking boulders. Sure, Guts could cut them in half, but not when they keep coming.

[aurixdarastrix]

Guys, I think you need to take another look over the OP. Specifically, the part on how the victor is decided.

Exactly.  You present arguments, YOU DO NOT VOTE.  This isn't a popularity contest.  This is more like two kids arguing over how a fight between batman and superman would turn out.  Except this has a neutral judge. 

I meant the vote as a joke, why are all you guys voting?

DO YOU SEE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE?  AND YOU PTTG???

Ajax held off the entire Trojan Army (and Hector) by himself twice without being wounded, and he did so while being the only main character never to get help from a God(dess). I think he can handle one guy, especially considering that Bronze is nearly as good as steel. Guts is also unarmored, and thus his organs are fair game for Ajax's greatspear. (Or chariot-sized boulders, either one.)

Right way to do it. 

I vote sandworm!

NONONONONONONO WRONG. 

[Criptfeind]

I BLAME PTTG 100%.

[smjjames]

I meant the vote as a joke, why are all you guys voting?

My guess, they didn't properly read the first post and assumed this was like the other thread.

Yea I blame PTTG

Also, I thought Ajax had a sword? But spear>sword in any case because of the reach..

[ed boy]

Also, I thought Ajax had a sword? But spear>sword in any case because of the reach..

I beleive he owned and was adept with both, though he may have favoured the spear.

[CJ1145]

Ajax's spear gives him a much better reach than Guts, and according to the stories he was capable of fighting for days. However, his kill count is relatively low at 28, and I'm willing to bet Guts has surpassed this. This would put him at the disadvantage of experience. There is little either could do to prepare to counteract each other save Ajax trying to figure out how a raging man would fight, and Guts figuring out how to get around that massive spear.

So basically, I'll try to narrow it down into five categories: Skill, Armament, Endurance, Agility, and Preparation

Skill: I give this one to Guts. While Ajax is a champion and one of the best fighters during the Trojan War, Guts has spent his entire life fighting. It is more or less his entire being, and he's learned to harness his rage well for this sort of thing.

Armament: Hmm. I think I'm going to have to change my mind about this one. While Ajax would normally have the advantage of reach with his spear, Gut's Dragonslayer is simply massive, and heavy enough to snap any spear that Ajax could use. Therefore, he'd be forced to rely on his sword and shield. which would only serve to get him battered instead of chopped. It's like exchanging a cut on the face with a blow to the head.

Endurance: Ajax. Guts has lasted a long time in battle, but I doubt he's ever had to face the constant battle that Ajax was exposed to, despite his profession. He could last for some time, but his fighting style would force him into a defensive position after a few hours, while Ajax could go all day.

Agility: Also Ajax. While Guts would normally be about even, swinging a sword that massive will force him to put at least SOME delay into his attacks, which is all Ajax will need to move to lessen the blow or avoid it. Mind you, I doubt he'd keep this up forever. I just think it would last long enough.

Preparation: While Ajax does have a varied skill-set, they are skills that are easy to counter. On the other hand, Guts is like a walking tank, and a Greek soldier has few means to counteract such a powerful foe. All Guts has to do is think of a way around the spear, and tailor his attacks to whittling away at Ajax without detracting from his own endurance, which would be doable for him.

With a score of 3-2, I say that Guts would win this fight.

[Phantom]

As much as I like Ajax, I have to go with Guts, judging from how would Guts trump him.

[Luke_Prowler]

I like CJ1145's argument, but I'd say that a spear would give Ajax an advantage for Guts' heavy sword. I guess it would depend over who would be able to get the hit in first.

[ein]

Endurance: Ajax. Guts has lasted a long time in battle, but I doubt he's ever had to face the constant battle that Ajax was exposed to, despite his profession. He could last for some time, but his fighting style would force him into a defensive position after a few hours, while Ajax could go all day.

See, I think Guts has this one because, while Ajax has the endurance to last a whole war, Guts is constantly under attack from demons.
Besides, being a one-on-one fight, it probably wouldn't last long enough for either to get cripplingly tired.

[CJ1145]

I don't know, impossibly long fights were a big thing in the Iliad.

[Criptfeind]

OH SHIT I JUST REALIZED WHO THIS "GUTS" IS. THERE IS NO WAY HE DOES NOT WIN.

[Azure Sepulchre]

Guts possesses as much - if not far, far more - battle experience as Ajax. He has served in the Band of the Hawk for three years; over the course of which the mercenary band never stopped fighting. Hell, in a single battle, Guts was surrounded and isolated against one hundred opponents, and manages to take out all of them. Admittedly, he was severely wounded over the course of the battle, unlike Ajax, but he still managed to defeat almost four times Ajax's number, and this is back before he get's hunted by demonic creatures on a nightly basis.

Actually, I'm thinking Ajax; an actual warrior-king has got to be a little better than a soldier, vengeful or not.

He was a raid leader, and second-in-command of the Band of the Hawks. He started as a regular soldier, sure, but the very fact that he worked his way up must prove his merit.

On the other hand, This guy is a thousand years later than Ajax, with presumably better metals and possibly better health

And a metal arm, a concealed crossbow and a number of small throwing knives. Not to mention his armour (which, I hasten to point out, does not make him invulnerable. It forces his mind to ignore pain or danger, allowing him to keep fighting until he ran out of blood. Of course, this is at the expense of his capacity to think during battle, which could put him at a major disadvantage against a tactical fighter like Ajax).
 

That said, Guts is Japanimion, so there goes that.

...is that really the argument you're going with? You're honestly gonna put Berserk - a highly celebrated, multi-decade long saga detailing the rise and fall of a Byronic hero in his struggle against causality - on the same standard as something like Naruto or some shit? Right. Yeah.

Ajax held off the entire Trojan Army (and Hector) by himself twice without being wounded, and he did so while being the only main character never to get help from a God(dess). I think he can handle one guy, especially considering that Bronze is nearly as good as steel. Guts is also unarmored, and thus his organs are fair game for Ajax's greatspear. (Or chariot-sized boulders, either one.)

I reiterate: beat 100 men single-handed, metal arm, concealed crossbow, Berserker armour. Not to mention the fact that Guts not only got no help from the gods; he's damn well fighting them. Not exactly winning, to tell the truth, but would you expect him to? I mean, hell, they're gods. Let's see Ajax beat a god. Then I'll say he'd rip Guts apart before he could even raise his eyebrows.

Yeah, Ajax, like Diomedes, Hector, Achilles, and I believe Odysseus, fights by hurling fucking boulders. Sure, Guts could cut them in half, but not when they keep coming.

If it's a matter of endurance, Guts would likely win. If the man can withstand the blows of a minotaur, he can stand to have a few boulders thrown at him.

OH SHIT I JUST REALIZED WHO THIS "GUTS" IS. THERE IS NO WAY HE DOES NOT WIN.

Damn straight, man. Damn straight.