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Author Topic: Fight to the Death: [ROUND SIX: TEX VS DR.CLEF]  (Read 58895 times)

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Re: Fight to the Death: Actual combat edition [ACCEPTING SUBMISSIONS]
« Reply #135 on: July 21, 2010, 10:57:40 am »

Why Glorfindel? He was just some random elf that the Hobbits met in the Forest before meeting Tom Bombadil.
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« Reply #136 on: July 21, 2010, 11:00:35 am »

Unless I am confusing him with another elf, Glorfindel is the most powerful being on Middle Earth during the War of the Ring. Though he might be edged out by Tom Bombadil, but only slightly.
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« Reply #137 on: July 21, 2010, 11:04:45 am »

Glorfindel is powerful, but not as powerful as Elrond, Galadriel, Celeborn, Gandalf, a Balrog, Sauron, Radagast the Brown, or Saruman.
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« Reply #138 on: July 21, 2010, 11:10:04 am »

Who is Radagast the Brown anyway? I remember that he's another wizard, but he's only briefly mentioned in the books.

Also, looking at the list Aragorn would be doomed. Most of those without magic have guns, and gun vs. sword is a rather predictable fight unless you can slice bullets out of midair.
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« Reply #139 on: July 21, 2010, 11:14:47 am »

Glorfindel is powerful, but not as powerful as Elrond, Galadriel, Celeborn, Gandalf, a Balrog, Sauron, Radagast the Brown, or Saruman.

Dude, Gandalf was the second most powerful of the wizards, and it took all of his skill to fight off 5 Nazgul. In comparison, Glorfindel made all 9 Nazgul shit themselves and run in terror for no other reason than the fact that, to get the Ringbearer, they would have to go through motherfucking Glorfindel.

EDIT: Also, Radagast we're not really sure of. His power is probably on par with Gandalf's, or at least the Blue Twins, but he seems to prefer using it to commune with nature as opposed to frolicking with hobbits and making armies of super-orcs.
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« Reply #140 on: July 21, 2010, 11:17:27 am »

Who is Radagast the Brown anyway? I remember that he's another wizard, but he's only briefly mentioned in the books.

Also, looking at the list Aragorn would be doomed. Most of those without magic have guns, and gun vs. sword is a rather predictable fight unless you can slice bullets out of midair.

And Luke has his lightsabre, which would render any sword (except maybe a magical one and of course, another lightsabre) useless. I know a lightsabre can deflect blaster bolts, but not sure about projectile ammo. So, depending on how a lightsabre works against projectile ammo, Luke should fare well against guns.

Since we're talking about him having some of the powers in the books, he could use the force to deflect the bullets.
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« Reply #141 on: July 21, 2010, 11:20:01 am »

Aragorn is the wielder of Anduril, Flame of the West. I believe that is suitably magical to hold off a lightsaber. And I think he's strong-willed enough that he could resist Luke's mind tricks, which puts them on about even footing as Luke tends not to get too offensive with his powers.
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« Reply #142 on: July 21, 2010, 11:25:47 am »

And Luke has his lightsabre, which would render any sword (except maybe a magical one and of course, another lightsabre) useless. I know a lightsabre can deflect blaster bolts, but not sure about projectile ammo. So, depending on how a lightsabre works against projectile ammo, Luke should fare well against guns.

Given how lightsabers seem to work, I think trying to deflect a bullet would end up with a face full of molten lead.
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« Reply #143 on: July 21, 2010, 11:31:59 am »

Aragorn is the wielder of Anduril, Flame of the West. I believe that is suitably magical to hold off a lightsaber. And I think he's strong-willed enough that he could resist Luke's mind tricks, which puts them on about even footing as Luke tends not to get too offensive with his powers.
Lightsaber I would disagree on, but mind tricky certainly. He resists sauron's inflence when he uses the palantir.

Also, a few submissions from me:

Gandalf(LOTR)
Wielder of glamdring and slayer of Durin's bane. Not much explanation needed.


Ajax the Great (Greek myth)
The greatest soldier at the battle of troy after Achillies. He bested Hector three times, and managed to hold off the trojan armies almost single-handedly. He is the only principal character to not recieve divine aid aduring the battle of Troy.

Oddysseus (Greek myth)
His accomplishments are too many to summarise here.

T-800 (Terminator movies)
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« Reply #144 on: July 21, 2010, 11:36:29 am »

And Luke has his lightsabre, which would render any sword (except maybe a magical one and of course, another lightsabre) useless. I know a lightsabre can deflect blaster bolts, but not sure about projectile ammo. So, depending on how a lightsabre works against projectile ammo, Luke should fare well against guns.

Given how lightsabers seem to work, I think trying to deflect a bullet would end up with a face full of molten lead.

Yea, that might be correct, using telekinesis through the force might work. I don't know of any cases where he went up against foes with projectile weapons rather than the energy/plasma weapons that almost completely dominate the Star Wars universe.

@Ed Boy: Didn't we already agree on the likes of Gandalf being too powerful for this whole thing? Either of the two Greek heroes that you're suggesting would work.
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« Reply #145 on: July 21, 2010, 11:47:43 am »

@Ed Boy: Didn't we already agree on the likes of Gandalf being too powerful for this whole thing? Either of the two Greek heroes that you're suggesting would work.
The balrog which gandalf fought was deemed as being unsuitable, but gandalf was not. When they first encounter the balrog, Gandalf reveals that it is a foe beyond even him, but he combats it anyway to buy them time (and by good fortune manages to kill it shortly before dying himself). Although he does have some magical abilities, they are not used very often, and are nto very varied. Certainly he is a lot less magical than your average harry potter character.
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« Reply #146 on: July 21, 2010, 11:56:56 am »

@Ed Boy: Didn't we already agree on the likes of Gandalf being too powerful for this whole thing? Either of the two Greek heroes that you're suggesting would work.
The balrog which gandalf fought was deemed as being unsuitable, but gandalf was not. When they first encounter the balrog, Gandalf reveals that it is a foe beyond even him, but he combats it anyway to buy them time (and by good fortune manages to kill it shortly before dying himself). Although he does have some magical abilities, they are not used very often, and are nto very varied. Certainly he is a lot less magical than your average harry potter character.
Spoken as one who has not read the books. Gandalf is the Middle-Earth equivalent of an angel, his abilities far surpass any mortal's, but he's bound by rule to only reveal his little tricks and jokes. When he actually goes into combat he goes all-out, shown when he fights the Nazgul at Weathertop (though it's only mentioned in passing) and the fact that he beat the Balrog. You give Gandalf very little credit.
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« Reply #147 on: July 21, 2010, 12:05:46 pm »

Gandalf's power is not in brute force, but planning. He rarely uses any magic because he does not need to, not because he cannot. He defeated the Balrog while falling down a near infinite pit. I repeat: He killed a flying creature that was on fire, while falling at terminal velocity.
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« Reply #148 on: July 21, 2010, 12:07:54 pm »

Well technically he weakened it, then fought for a straight week or something before killing it at the top of a mountain.
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« Reply #149 on: July 21, 2010, 12:12:13 pm »

Both gandalf and the Balrog survived the fall, but the balrog's flamse were extinguished. It was only after another eight days of combat (which brought the two from the deepest depths of moria to the peak of zirakzigil. There, the balrog's flames re-ingnited, and after another two days of battle it was killed.

However,CJ1145 makes a very apt point, and I am withdrawing the suggestion of gandalf.
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