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[Knight Otu]

No, no, not the Subrosians are always hostile, the underground civs are.

Anyway, I'm currently experimenting with Zoras a bit.

[Knight Otu]

Well, I won't give Zoras towns as sites, definitely.

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Seems rare enough, but I'm not taking my chances. In the same town, the mead hall exited directly into water, but was supported on earth.

[snuflufagus]

I quite like the concept of our lovable, familiar dorfs invading the world of Hyrule.  Gannon has nothing on Armok.

[Deon]

Now I feel sad that I haven't played LoZ in my childhood. I would have now awesome flashbacks and warm feelings for playing this mod... Oh well. Cool job nonetheless .

[GregHayes]

Can we we expect to see Iron Knuckles/Darknuts in any capacity? They might make passable semimegabeasts, at least.

The Ikana from Majora's Mask might be a good candidate for another enemy civilization - either try to extrapolate what they were like in life, or leave them as a militant nation of stalchildren, ReDeads, gibdos and stalfos. I'd suggest the Garo, too, if we knew much more about them. Possibly a minor civ that's really good at ambushing? Either way, it seems almost criminal to not include Zelda's undead creatures in some capacity. You ought to be giving people traumatic ReDead flashbacks, damnit!

[Knight Otu]

Iron knuckles and darknuts are in the mod in a roundabout way - gerudos, the underground people, and moblins get a heavy armor called the knuckle plate, and moblins also get a metal called dark iron, creating the occasional dark knuckle (darknut) plate. Armos and Armos Knights should find their way into the mod as "heavily armored" (semi)megabeasts though.

I'll certainly do something with the undead. I've considered making them a civilization like the itarin in Direforged to make sure they get weapons and such where appropriate, though the Night Creature portion of the dev page might make it possible for them to replace vanilla undead so we not only get Stalfos and Stalhounds, but also Stalcuccos, Stalhorses, and Stalquamenti. But that part is who knows how far in the future, so a temporary solution could be in the next version.

[GregHayes]

Again, the Ikana would make a logical basis for an undead civilization, at least until the Night Creatures are added in properly (although the Night Creatures would certainly make it possible to do stalchildren properly).

[Knight Otu]

I get the distinct impression that dekus might need a bit of help in the combat department.

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Yes, 16606 kills. Presumably 16603 are deku scrubs. Over the course of 300 years. In many wars in which that particular demon was the sole defender of the dark towers it dwelt in and still killed at least half the attacking force. Did I mention it was a blind demon? Okay, so he has extravision, but still.

Oddly enough, dekus shouldn't have ranged weapons except their deku nut shooting, and I was always under the impression that material breaths are never used in worldgen. And I can't just go and talk to that deku because he got himself dismembered and killed by a gohma about 50 years later.

[GregHayes]

Seems perfectly appropriate to me.

[Asra]

This looks like a really fun mod. Are there any plans on continuing with it? Have you managed to modify the demons?

[Urist Mcinternetuser]

I'll give you a mod that (should) makes stone edible. One second...

Here it is:
[REACTION:COOK_STONE]
   [NAME:Prepare stone]
   [BUILDING:KITCHEN:CUSTOM_P]
   [REAGENT:A:1:BOULDER:NO_SUBTYPE:INORGANIC:NONE]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:MEAT:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE]
   [SKILL:MASONRY]

I suspect you know how to add it in to the reaction_other file. And I also suspect you know to permit the reaction for the civ.

I'm checking it now.

[Knight Otu]

Yeah, I'm still working on my mods, though currently, I'm mostly waiting on the next version so I can see how entity populations impact things, along with a few tweaks (no worries, Greg, dekus won't get all that much stronger than in the screenshot). Demons are mostly hard-coded, so it is hard to touch them. As such, I can't make pig demons more common or something like that.

Edit:

I'll give you a mod that (should) makes stone edible. One second...

Here it is:
[REACTION:COOK_STONE]
   [NAME:Prepare stone]
   [BUILDING:KITCHEN:CUSTOM_P]
   [REAGENT:A:1:BOULDER:NO_SUBTYPE:INORGANIC:NONE]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:MEAT:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE]
   [SKILL:MASONRY]

I suspect you know how to add it in to the reaction_other file. And I also suspect you know to permit the reaction for the civ.

I'm checking it now.

Thanks, but the problem isn't really making stone edible, but keeping gorons from eating stuff other than stone and metal. Since jobs mostly look at item types, I suspect these stone meats should be edible, though.

[Urist Mcinternetuser]

I have successfully made cinnabar chops. Which are edible.
Like Rat skin chops

Also, is there a creature tag for herbivore? if you took away [INDOOR_FARMING]/[OUTDOOR_FARMING] and the herbalist and farming jobs. Well, it wouldn't make them not eat other stuff, but it would make it happen less often. They don't seem to be stockpilable though...

[Knight Otu]

I think the only diet tags are carnivore and bonecarn. I don't quite want to take away farming from gorons - apart from the bug where fortress mode removes entire labor categories (which would remove at least tanning, wood burning, and dyeing as viable goron skills), it would also remove the ability to grow plants for dye, cloth, and extracts. I do still hope I can do something interesting with bomb flowers...

But I think I can add your reaction in for gorons without removing that stuff, if you like.

[Urist Mcinternetuser]

Whatever you think is fitting for the mod.

/[OUTDOOR_FARMING] and the herbalist and farming jobs. Well, it wouldn't make them not eat other stuff, but it would make it happen less often. They don't seem to be stockpilable though...

Those were just suggestions to help with this:

Thanks, but the problem isn't really making stone edible, but keeping gorons from eating stuff other than stone and metal.