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shibdib

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Re: Noble Execution
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2010, 04:10:47 am »

i like this idea.. cause not only can u kill nobles with magma.. u can kill the nobles supporters and friends with magma
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Re: Noble Execution
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2010, 11:18:39 am »

Instead of killing them we should make them !!usefull!! Yes I'm an Elf but I'm a broccoli eating(Ok I eat goats), intellectual, dashingly good looki'n and NONtreehugging Elf(Ok I hug chickens). I think that the nobles should actualy make something out of the stuff they request. They should also have PERSONAL conversations with the liason of what they want and need.  Also they should scare the dwarfs: If he desroys a bed then he has to go make one again. If he hits someone then he himself will have no breaks. They should get better and learn their lessons after this.


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Re: Noble Execution
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2010, 04:46:09 pm »

From what I gather, we'll eventually appoint our own nobles instead of being sent freeloaders. When the baron is your favorite dwarf, you'll be a lot less inclined to kill it.

Combined with the feudal benefits, I see little reason not to tolerate their presence.
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Re: Noble Execution
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2010, 06:02:59 pm »

"Urist like steel, axes, swords..."
NOBLEFY HIM
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Re: Noble Execution
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2010, 06:08:38 pm »

Eh, I like my barons to prefer materials I'm going to use in bulk and items I'm going to need in bulk... the stuff that it never hurts to have more of...

Urist McBaron likes Steel, Barrels, Bins, and Bolts.
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Re: Noble Execution
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2010, 06:11:16 pm »

Eh, I like my barons to prefer materials I'm going to use in bulk and items I'm going to need in bulk... the stuff that it never hurts to have more of...

Urist McBaron likes Steel, Barrels, Bins, and Bolts.

Remember that he can ban exports, too, so you can't export anything made out of steel out of fear that he will suddenly change the mandate to ban exports once the goods are already in the caravan heading back.

This makes things such as liking goblets fairly annoying, as well.
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Re: Noble Execution
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2010, 06:16:37 pm »

Pretty much everything I make out of steel is for personal use anyways.  Besides, banning exports is far less annoying than mandating construction.
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Re: Noble Execution
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2010, 06:22:07 pm »

Apparently serrated discs are really good exports though. But you can always make those out of glass.
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Re: Noble Execution
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2010, 10:08:29 pm »

Eh, I like my barons to prefer materials I'm going to use in bulk and items I'm going to need in bulk... the stuff that it never hurts to have more of...

Urist McBaron likes Steel, Barrels, Bins, and Bolts.

Remember that he can ban exports, too, so you can't export anything made out of steel out of fear that he will suddenly change the mandate to ban exports once the goods are already in the caravan heading back.

This makes things such as liking goblets fairly annoying, as well.

If you export steel, you don't deserve your flux and should send it to my fort where it'll have a good home.
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Re: Noble Execution
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2010, 04:38:41 am »

Nobles should make reasonable construction mandates and have some useful bonus effect on your fortress. Then the punishment for the accident would be losing the "bonus" caused by the noble.

Nobles could be useful, but have some negative effects too, like requiring stuff and mandates. They should still be more sensible than now. And no random darf punishments, it could be replaced with something else, which players could agree on. Dwarfs could "go rogue" and do something stupid/illegal and then they would be punished for real reasons.
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Re: Noble Execution
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2010, 05:08:02 am »

It's not like the legal system has to exist just to throw people in jail randomly. Eventually dwarves will probably be smart enough to steal, get into little fights and whatnot but until then, it'd be better if the jails were used mostly for the player's whims.
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Re: Noble Execution
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2010, 04:48:27 am »

I actually kind of like the idea of setting up the Resistance at my fort. Overthrow the feudalist oppressors to implement a democracy! And when the inevitable civil war begins, I'll just tell my Legendary Axedwarf to shred as hard as he can, while I sing from the parapets.

No one's gonna take me alive
Time has come to make things right
You and I must fight for our rights
You and I must fight to survive...

I also like the idea of having nobles be actually useful, but it kind of flies in the face of most of history. Not that we don't do that already, of course.
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Re: Noble Execution
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2010, 11:59:21 am »

DO YOU HEAR THE PEOPLE SING

SINGING THE SONG OF ANGRY MEN

IT IS THE MUSIC OF A PEOPLE WHO WILL

NOT BE SLAVES AGAIN
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Re: Noble Execution
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2010, 12:15:06 pm »

DO YOU HEAR THE PEOPLE SING

SINGING THE SONG OF ANGRY MEN

IT IS THE MUSIC OF A PEOPLE WHO WILL

NOT BE SLAVES AGAIN

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Re: Noble Execution
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2010, 03:23:02 pm »

I originally though you meant have a way to execute nobles built in. And I ignored this. Now that I read it. Nice idea. I think there should be much harsher punishment for killing nobles.
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