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Author Topic: New Alien Swarm on Steam Monday 7/19  (Read 40540 times)

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Re: New Alien Swarm on Steam Monday 7/19
« Reply #495 on: July 30, 2010, 09:55:57 am »

I think people bad at insane still should be allowed to play insane.

But, ffs, they should at least bring some

.) good will
.) ability to learn
.) non-asshattery

Losing is fun, if everybody at least TRIES!

Seriously. One thing that somehow gets me down, is.... I still havent met a lot of people that pay attention to where they stand. Running around like a jerk, trying to dodge the swarm usually is a LOT less effective than positioning yourself smart, so everybody has a clear line of fire.

Enable your squaddies to open up on the baddies, and all will end well.

FF might not be that strong, but aliens which cannot be shot because you block the bullets with your body (or hinder your team from firing in the first place), those usually deal some damage.

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Re: New Alien Swarm on Steam Monday 7/19
« Reply #496 on: August 01, 2010, 09:21:53 am »

I'm having a mighty good time with this game, making some maps for it. Friend me if you want to join in, I'm always looking for some people to help as testers and for opinions.

Map #2: Winter Dread

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Re: New Alien Swarm on Steam Monday 7/19
« Reply #497 on: August 01, 2010, 04:40:49 pm »

flares look like a lifesaver for that
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Re: New Alien Swarm on Steam Monday 7/19
« Reply #498 on: August 01, 2010, 05:47:37 pm »

I would pack incendiary mines and a good shotgun or another high damage gun, drop the mines and RUN THE FUCK FOR A WELDABLE DOOR!
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Re: New Alien Swarm on Steam Monday 7/19
« Reply #499 on: August 01, 2010, 09:48:54 pm »

FF might not be that strong, but aliens which cannot be shot because you block the bullets with your body (or hinder your team from firing in the first place), those usually deal some damage.

Friendly fire is deadly. I played a game with three dudes from here, and one of them was able to drill bullets into my back from three screens away without fail. There was no way he could have even been aiming at me OR the aliens. He was just hanging out across the map spraying his assault rifle everywhere for no reason.
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Re: New Alien Swarm on Steam Monday 7/19
« Reply #500 on: August 01, 2010, 10:10:18 pm »

Friendly fire does a larger percentage of its actual damage over time, doesn't it?
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Re: New Alien Swarm on Steam Monday 7/19
« Reply #501 on: August 02, 2010, 08:25:16 am »

Looks like you're right:
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Friendly fire is managed by an absorption system. Depending on the difficulty level, a marine  will absorb a portion of the incoming friendly fire damage. As the marine is hit by more friendly fire, the amount of damage that is absorbed will decrease so the overall damage taken will increase. This absorption amount will recover over time provided the marine doesn't become a victim of additional friendly fire. The end result is that occasional friendly fire incidents won't destroy your squad, but sustained friendly fire will eventually result in death.
This doesn't sound like the worst idea, actually. Encouraces people to play "clean" but doesn't punish that hard for a small mistake. Sounds like a good mechanic that actually has fun and gameplay in mind...

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I like that article, as a whole, actually. A lof of those suggestions aren't half bad. DEW IT, folks, read it and heed the advice! http://alienswarm.wikia.com/wiki/Friendly_Fire

FF, more often than not, is the fault of the guys being hit. (And before anybody gets cocky, I'm usually the guy that deals the least FF :P)
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Re: New Alien Swarm on Steam Monday 7/19
« Reply #502 on: August 02, 2010, 11:01:14 am »

I do enjoy when I am blasting away down a hallway with the minigun and some guy runs in front of me. I mean how hard is it to see (and hear) the stream of bullets from the minigun?
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« Reply #503 on: August 02, 2010, 11:40:34 am »

I am pretty sure people actually see (and hear) that tracer-laden stream of bullets just fine.

What never ceases to amaze me is how they fail to grasp what this perception implies. I'm talking about the simplest things, for instance how you should try never to occupy the same space as a travelling bullet, as this is usually bad for your health.

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Re: New Alien Swarm on Steam Monday 7/19
« Reply #504 on: August 02, 2010, 01:08:24 pm »

What happens to me far too often is I'll be flaming some drones on the front line when stupid special weapons guy starts warming up his chaingun from behind and destroys half my health.

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Re: New Alien Swarm on Steam Monday 7/19
« Reply #505 on: August 02, 2010, 03:39:18 pm »

When a Jaeger is dumping his Vindicator ammo onto an incoming horde, "being between those two things" should be at the bottom of your list of things to do.
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Re: New Alien Swarm on Steam Monday 7/19
« Reply #506 on: August 02, 2010, 03:44:58 pm »

I am pretty sure people actually see (and hear) that tracer-laden stream of bullets just fine.

What never ceases to amaze me is how they fail to grasp what this perception implies. I'm talking about the simplest things, for instance how you should try never to occupy the same space as a travelling bullet, as this is usually bad for your health.
Murphy's Laws of Combat:
  • Incoming fire has right of way
  • The only thing more accurate than incoming enemy fire is incoming friendly fire.
  • Friendly fire, isn't.
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Re: New Alien Swarm on Steam Monday 7/19
« Reply #507 on: August 02, 2010, 04:32:01 pm »

What happens to me far too often is I'll be flaming some drones on the front line when stupid special weapons guy starts warming up his chaingun from behind and destroys half my health.
So who is the stupid one here again?

Come not between a chaingun and its prey!
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Re: New Alien Swarm on Steam Monday 7/19
« Reply #508 on: August 02, 2010, 04:57:29 pm »

Do not argue with the flamer, for you shalt get burned.
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Re: New Alien Swarm on Steam Monday 7/19
« Reply #509 on: August 02, 2010, 05:36:02 pm »

If you're on a difficulty where friendly fire is a serious concern (Insanity), you should just advance in the T formation.

xyz
 w

x is tech, z is medic (or the opposite), assuming medic has a gun of some type. Y is a Hoovy with Minigun or Autogun. W is Jaeger, covering the back with Vindicator (firemines too, if the backhorde gets too tough, which is rare). That'll get you through whatever corridors you need to until you get forced to defend a point/area.
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