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[endsville]

Is there any way to find weapons or armor made of anything other than bronze?  I kind of hoped you could loot armor and weapons from monster thieves such as dragons or in caves but apparently not.  It would make me giggle to be able to stumble onto a masterwork adamantine or steel axe, or even craft or steal enough  trinkets to buy one. 

So I guess my question is how do you get better metal weapons in Adventure mode other than going into Fortress mode and spending hours and hours only to abandon your fort in order to raid it for the equipment in adventure mode?  Can you edit the raws to allow higher grade weapons?

[Robocorn]

humans don't make better stuff than bismuth bronze in vanilla, goblins and dwarves can make steel and iron so you can kill them and steal their stuff. I don't know why you complain though, bronze is the third best metal.

but yeah, you can totally change the entity file in the raws to allow all the civs to make steel and adamantine stuff, but then everyone wielding adamantine swords has adamantine armor than the purpose defeats itself.

[Kobold Troubadour]

The burning robotic unicorn's right...If you really want some nicer stuff in adventure mode without playing fortress mode 1st, then you'll have to make little mods and edits to the game RAWs, like making dwarves start out in towns and removing the DEEP tag in adamantine (Layman terms: they'll start selling those fancy glowing blue sharp stabby things.)

...wait...what's the best minerals for blunt weapons again that are available for Adventure mode?

[endsville]

I wasn't really "complaining" about anything, just asking a question.  My purpose mostly I guess is the feeling of advancement and reward you get from better equipment.  Warlords are constantly asking me to kill Bronze Colossus and the like, and I want to feel at least fairly confident I'm going to give them a run for their money before I'm squished.  I know there's not a whole lot of goals in adventure mode yet, so you're pretty much depending on creating your own, but like I said, it's the feeling of advancement and getting stronger, and finding that nice piece of equipment that I'm interested in. 

If you didn't start out in it,  bronze would feel like an accomplishment I guess.

[Ricky]

humans don't make better stuff than bismuth bronze in vanilla, goblins and dwarves can make steel and iron so you can kill them and steal their stuff. I don't know why you complain though, bronze is the third best metal.

but yeah, you can totally change the entity file in the raws to allow all the civs to make steel and adamantine stuff, but then everyone wielding adamantine swords has adamantine armor than the purpose defeats itself.

third best out of how many metal types to make weapons and armor?

[darkflagrance]

The burning robotic unicorn's right...If you really want some nicer stuff in adventure mode without playing fortress mode 1st, then you'll have to make little mods and edits to the game RAWs, like making dwarves start out in towns and removing the DEEP tag in adamantine (Layman terms: they'll start selling those fancy glowing blue sharp stabby things.)

...wait...what's the best minerals for blunt weapons again that are available for Adventure mode?

I know gold, silver, and platinum are good for blunts.

Maybe lead too.

third best out of how many metal types to make weapons and armor?

The blue fun stuff and steel are better, but iron, copper, silver (save for edgeless weapons), and nonmetals are worse. I don't think there are other metals available for weapons in vanilla, and none of them except the black fun stuff makes decent edges anyway.

[NewsMuffin]

I'm probably wrong, but aren't obsidian swords as good as steel ones? Or was that just in 40d?

[Inspiration]

It's actually quite easy. Mod cats to drop loads of insane weapons/armor, then bring a couple along in a dwarf fortress. Afterwards, butcher the cats, and abandon. Choose "play now" and your weapons should be relatively easy to find. Then, head off to a town to retire. Start a new adventurer with whatever skills you want, and go assassinate your old adventurer. He should have all the gear.


If anyone does this, could they share the RAWS with me? I can't figure out item tokens.

[Foamy]

You can get better gear through the new reactions. there's already a couple which give you a copper axe and shield but it is very easy to modify these to give steel or another material. You can do that for all weapons and ammo but i don't think it works for armour yet due to the large issue.

[Grimlocke]

The itemcorpse thing will allow you to set item quality, something reaction cannot do. The armour size is still a problem though, the only way to obtain those is through entities that have the same size you do (there is some thing that lets you get armor and clothes when you retire somewhere,l but im not sure about that). Easiest would be to set dwarves to build human towns instead of those pointless holes in the ground they make now, that way they can sell you stuff.

Oh and since last version you can have creatures yield specific items when you butcher them, without having to use itemcorpse (which removes the corpse and replaces it with an item). You can for example make a sword bodypart for some creature, and have that drop a sword when butchered. Do note that adventurers are squeemish about any butchering anything that talks.

[Eric Blank]

The itemcorpse thing will allow you to set item quality, something reaction cannot do. The armour size is still a problem though, the only way to obtain those is through entities that have the same size you do (there is some thing that lets you get armor and clothes when you retire somewhere,l but im not sure about that). Easiest would be to set dwarves to build human towns instead of those pointless holes in the ground they make now, that way they can sell you stuff.

Oh and since last version you can have creatures yield specific items when you butcher them, without having to use itemcorpse (which removes the corpse and replaces it with an item). You can for example make a sword bodypart for some creature, and have that drop a sword when butchered. Do note that adventurers are squeemish about any butchering anything that talks.

And what is the token that performs this task?

[Grimlocke]

Assuming you mean the itemcorpse thing, you can use
   [ITEMCORPSE:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_LONG:INORGANIC:STEEL]
   [ITEMCORPSE_QUALITY:5]
You can replace ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_LONG with any weapon from item_weapon.txt, and you can replace STEEL any material.

[Inspiration]

I would be very grateful if someone could whip up the raw edits for full adamantine armor from cats. I'm no good with the RAWS.

[Eric Blank]

Actually, I meant the one described here;

Oh and since last version you can have creatures yield specific items when you butcher them, without having to use itemcorpse (which removes the corpse and replaces it with an item). You can for example make a sword bodypart for some creature, and have that drop a sword when butchered. Do note that adventurers are squeemish about any butchering anything that talks.

I looked on the wiki and didn't notice any new entries on the body tokens page, or creature tokens page, nothing that would lead me to believe that this is true, despite how much I love the idea and want it to make some bronze golems made out of armor and a weapon to give to my dwarves as a defensive measure. (or to be horribly murdered by in the hands of other races)

[Kobold Troubadour]

I think they're talking about adding new reactions like:

[REACTION:MAKE_BONE_BOLT]
   [NAME:make bone bolts]
   [ADVENTURE_MODE_ENABLED]   [REAGENT:bones:1:NONE:NONE:NONE:NONE][USE_BODY_COMPONENT][ANY_BONE_MATERIAL]      [PRODUCT:100:15:AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_BOLTS:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:bones:NONE][FORCE_EDGE]
   [SKILL:BONECARVE]

With this you could make bolts from bones of those you've butchered...there's more interesting info in a thread here somewhere or go look for more nifty ones at the DF MODDING threads.