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Funk

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makeing a spear throwing weapon?
« on: July 16, 2010, 10:48:35 am »

ok i im trying to make a weapon to throw spears,work so far:
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yes it works but i cant get the weapon to use throwing skill.
can any one help please?
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Re: makeing a spear throwing weapon?
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2010, 10:50:42 am »

See where it says [SKILL:SPEAR]?

Try changing that to [SKILL:THROWER]
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Re: makeing a spear throwing weapon?
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2010, 12:19:26 pm »

sadly all that is not work as well is i hoped,it levels archer as well!?
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Re: makeing a spear throwing weapon?
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2010, 12:21:23 pm »

Archer relates to projectiles... I suppose that includes thrown items as well then.

It IS leveling thrower though, right?
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Re: makeing a spear throwing weapon?
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2010, 12:21:54 pm »

I have already done this.

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The javelin as a weapon has the same stats as a spear. The javelin as ammo has the same stats as a bolt, but it is the size of a spear. I have not adjusted the stats for 31.10 since the values are different from previous releases, and I haven't played with the values yet.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2010, 03:15:17 pm by Daywalkah »
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Re: makeing a spear throwing weapon?
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2010, 05:17:48 pm »

Just so you know, the handheld spear-thrower thingies are named Atlatls. Just something I thought I'd point out.
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Re: makeing a spear throwing weapon?
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2010, 05:25:11 pm »

Javelins exist as well. Atlatls are a contraption that hold and throw spears, javelins are an actual spear that is designed for throwing.
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Re: makeing a spear throwing weapon?
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2010, 05:36:32 pm »

I know what a Javelin is. :P I thought the OP was talking about a handheld force multiplier that used spears as ammo, though. That's why I brought it up.
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2010, 06:09:54 pm »

I'm not even sure if you can have a weapon that multiplies force. I will look into this at some point for the OP if they don't want my javelin.
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Re: makeing a spear throwing weapon?
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2010, 10:10:46 pm »

Definitions of Force multiplier on the Web:

    * Force multiplication, in military usage, refers to an attribute or a combination of attributes which make a given force more effective than that same force would be without it. The expected size increase required to have the same effectiveness without that advantage is the multiplication factor.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_multiplier

Basically, "Force Multiplier" is a fancy way of saying "any equipment given to a soldier to make them more effective." Didn't mean to cause any confusion.
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2010, 02:59:30 am »

Definitions of Force multiplier on the Web:

    * Force multiplication, in military usage, refers to an attribute or a combination of attributes which make a given force more effective than that same force would be without it. The expected size increase required to have the same effectiveness without that advantage is the multiplication factor.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_multiplier

Basically, "Force Multiplier" is a fancy way of saying "any equipment given to a soldier to make them more effective." Didn't mean to cause any confusion.

Can also fall under a soldier in a group.. Always nice to have a TAC-P when we did dismounted patrols.
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2010, 09:04:46 am »

Definitions of Force multiplier on the Web:

    * Force multiplication, in military usage, refers to an attribute or a combination of attributes which make a given force more effective than that same force would be without it. The expected size increase required to have the same effectiveness without that advantage is the multiplication factor.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_multiplier

Basically, "Force Multiplier" is a fancy way of saying "any equipment given to a soldier to make them more effective." Didn't mean to cause any confusion.

Sorry, I should have put in Dwarf Fortress. I need to proofread more. I wan't sure if you could have a tag or something else to multiply the force of a weapon in Dwarf Fortress that we can currently work with using the RAWs.
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Re: makeing a spear throwing weapon?
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2010, 09:58:12 am »

All talk of a spear-thrower has made me want to mod one in. It couldn't be too hard, right? I was thinking simply modding a crossbow to use spears as ammo. Can you make it so that the dwarf's strength affects the force of the projectile?
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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2010, 10:05:39 am »

The closest thing I could think of was to use the thrower skill to simulate strength effecting the throw. When I did this, you couldn't fire the object using 'f'. An undesirable (for me) consequence.
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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2010, 10:17:21 am »

Sorry, I should have put in Dwarf Fortress. I need to proofread more. I wan't sure if you could have a tag or something else to multiply the force of a weapon in Dwarf Fortress that we can currently work with using the RAWs.

Actually, ranged weapons have [SHOOT_FORCE:x] and [MAX_VELOCITY:x].
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