Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Expurgate]

Recently killed my 10th FB or so, a gigantic 3-eyed lark, blah blah blah beware its poisonous blood.  It didn't land a single hit on my fully steel- and legendary- military, but thanks to poisonous blood, managed to rot no less than SEVEN fully legendaried-out dwarves post combat.  Now there's a pool of it's blood somewhere in the fortress that was dropped when its corpse was dumped.  It's so far killed 6 dogs, 4 cats, and twelve random civilians, with 3 more in hospital right now who probably won't make it.

The FB was Fun.  This is Dumb, with a capital D.  How am I supposed to combat a couple tiles of blood I can't even find?  And given that Cleaning is already completely non-functional as a skill, what do I even do then?  The stupid facking thing died almost 3 years ago.  WHY is its blood still being tracked around?  Purely obnoxious.  Probably going to have to abandon given the current death rate.

Yes, I mad.

TL;DR, contaminant tracking is really [offensive word deleted - tt] when you can't find specific contaminants and they NEVER go away.

[Josephus]

Yes, I'm not much a fan of the new -random FB's either, especially as they appear to conspire with current bugs (unkillability, blood getting tracked fucking everywhere) to destroy forts without the possibility of doing anything about it. I suppose the only way around it is to not encounter Forgotten Beasts, either by turning invasions off (which is neither fun nor Fun) or by never breaching the underground (which is not fun) or by walling off as much of the underground as is possible, while leaving only your water-source accessible.

[Expurgate]

Well, I really enjoy the random FBs and I'm ok with losing a bunch of military dwarves in a fight with one, even if it was after the fact.  I got a great story out of it actually, about one of my oldest surviving axedwarves, 'Old One-Eye,' who singlehandedly broke a siege when my fort was young.  He got hit with the blood and basically his entire body rotted away, he's the only survivor from the blood so far.  No eyes, yellow or cyan on every exposed feature, years later. 

What's really goddamn annoying is that Toady added contaminant tracking without, apparently, any way to realistically deal with the contaminants being tracked.  The cleaning labor is unpredictable at best, and at worst, completely nonfunctional.  I'm probably gonna lose the best fort I've ever made in around 2 years with the game, a fort which I was having immense amounts of Fun with, simply because of an incomplete feature.

[slink]

DFHack has a DFCleanFort which might fix your problem.

[Agamemnon]

I'll add that to my top ten list of reasons not to play DF2010, along with the new material system being awesome and totally fucked at the same time.

[Expurgate]

DFHack has a DFCleanFort which might fix your problem.

I wasn't aware of that and will check it out immediately, thanks.

I love having to cheat to remedy bugs 

[Ricky]

how do you even get DFhack to work? its terrible D:

if someone could give me a step-by-step way to  make it work i would be happy

[Expurgate]

DFHack has a DFCleanFort which might fix your problem.

It worked :-D  A thousand thanks to you; you've saved my favorite fort!

[FreakyCheeseMan]

Damn, I'd kill for that kind of bug. I *want* disease, and tracking blood around is as close as it gets, right now...

[Josephus]

Damn, I'd kill for that kind of bug. I *want* disease, and tracking blood around is as close as it gets, right now...

Maybe if miasma was a vector, then? Because that noxious purple cloud should do a bit more than make my dwarves unhappy.

[FreakyCheeseMan]

Damn, I'd kill for that kind of bug. I *want* disease, and tracking blood around is as close as it gets, right now...

Maybe if miasma was a vector, then? Because that noxious purple cloud should do a bit more than make my dwarves unhappy.

I brought this up under the "Fun with Syndromes" thread I started in suggestions- have infectious plauges enter your fortress at random times, with probabilitiy/patient 0s being determined by exposure to murky water, outsider blood or miasma.

[Expurgate]

Damn, I'd kill for that kind of bug. I *want* disease, and tracking blood around is as close as it gets, right now...

Maybe if miasma was a vector, then? Because that noxious purple cloud should do a bit more than make my dwarves unhappy.

I brought this up under the "Fun with Syndromes" thread I started in suggestions- have infectious plauges enter your fortress at random times, with probabilitiy/patient 0s being determined by exposure to murky water, outsider blood or miasma.

EDIT: I also don't think anything is a bug here.  Just incomplete features combining in frustrating ways.

I 100% agree that would be Fun if outsider blood were something I could reasonably locate or quarantine. 

EDIT: The problem is not with a spreading disease, which was quite cool at first.  It's that randoming something like this basically says "Sorry, you lose."  Which is not at all Fun.  Hence the principle of interaction: it's hard to have fun with something you can't interact with at any real level.

[Josephus]

Damn, I'd kill for that kind of bug. I *want* disease, and tracking blood around is as close as it gets, right now...

Maybe if miasma was a vector, then? Because that noxious purple cloud should do a bit more than make my dwarves unhappy.

I brought this up under the "Fun with Syndromes" thread I started in suggestions- have infectious plauges enter your fortress at random times, with probabilitiy/patient 0s being determined by exposure to murky water, outsider blood or miasma.

EDIT: I also don't think anything is a bug here.  Just incomplete features combining in frustrating ways.

I 100% agree that would be Fun if outsider blood were something I could reasonably locate or quarantine. 

Imagine if the cleaning skill actually affected whether or not a given dwarf would be infected whilst attempting to clean up floor-blood. Hurrah.

[FreakyCheeseMan]

Damn, I'd kill for that kind of bug. I *want* disease, and tracking blood around is as close as it gets, right now...

Maybe if miasma was a vector, then? Because that noxious purple cloud should do a bit more than make my dwarves unhappy.

I brought this up under the "Fun with Syndromes" thread I started in suggestions- have infectious plauges enter your fortress at random times, with probabilitiy/patient 0s being determined by exposure to murky water, outsider blood or miasma.

EDIT: I also don't think anything is a bug here.  Just incomplete features combining in frustrating ways.

I 100% agree that would be Fun if outsider blood were something I could reasonably locate or quarantine.

No, I mean... so, your fortress gets a "Hygiene" level, based off of how many dwarves are exposed to unclean water, miasma, or blood of non-residents. This "Hygiene" level influences the probability of getting a plague in each season; if you do, the next dwarf to be exposed to any of the above gets a random infectious disease.

[uber pye]

b-but loseing is fun

>8D