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Teiwaz

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Are the military equipment bugs fixed in 31.09?
« on: July 10, 2010, 09:24:50 pm »

I've found the military bugs have made all the 2010 releases so far unplayable, the worst being Dwarves never putting down equipment they've been assigned, and just gathering more and more arms and armor, but then refusing to use any of it because they still have a wooden training axe. I haven't seen any mention of this in the dev notes, and the bug tracker is... inconclusive. Can anyone confirm whether the military works, yet?
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Re: Are the military equipment bugs fixed in 31.09?
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2010, 09:27:04 pm »

read the dev log, it has all of the fixes he has done
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Re: Are the military equipment bugs fixed in 31.09?
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2010, 09:31:22 pm »

I said I did, and no, it doesn't.
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Re: Are the military equipment bugs fixed in 31.09?
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2010, 09:32:01 pm »

These are all the bugs that were fixed in 31.09.

http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/changelog_page.php
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Re: Are the military equipment bugs fixed in 31.09?
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2010, 09:49:11 pm »

By getting rid of the arsenal dwarf, those issues might of been fixed if that was the cause. Ahem, that's what I'm hoping for anyways...
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Re: Are the military equipment bugs fixed in 31.09?
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2010, 09:52:26 pm »

Well, now that the arsenal dwarf is gone, things should probably go smoother. Personally I haven't had the bug the OP mentioned to any great degree, so I wouldn't be able to say how well it'll work.
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Re: Are the military equipment bugs fixed in 31.09?
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2010, 10:08:07 pm »

Right, and hunters and marksdwarves should be working better now.
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Re: Are the military equipment bugs fixed in 31.09?
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2010, 11:31:14 pm »

Right, and hunters and marksdwarves should be working better now.

It'll be interesting to see what happens when you get guys walking around with two crossbows in each hand. Probably just try to club people with em.
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Re: Are the military equipment bugs fixed in 31.09?
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2010, 01:02:02 am »

These are all the bugs that were fixed in 31.09.

http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/changelog_page.php
Actually the mantis bugtracker doesn't give a complete log of the changes/additions.

Look in the announcement forum for complete information:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=61160.0

(really wished toady linked to the threads in the dev-log)
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Re: Are the military equipment bugs fixed in 31.09?
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2010, 01:31:12 am »

There are a number of different equipping problems.  Some of them might be fixed.

In .09, I'm still finding dwarfs upgrading a left gauntlet to a right gauntlet.  Which doesn't work, of course.
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Re: Are the military equipment bugs fixed in 31.09?
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2010, 07:59:35 am »

I've found the military bugs have made all the 2010 releases so far unplayable, the worst being Dwarves never putting down equipment they've been assigned, and just gathering more and more arms and armor, but then refusing to use any of it because they still have a wooden training axe. I haven't seen any mention of this in the dev notes, and the bug tracker is... inconclusive. Can anyone confirm whether the military works, yet?

I've played dozens of fortresses with military use, and never have I seen that bug in any 2010 version.  Either I'm lucky or you're unlucky, but the military always worked fine for assigning to things to kill.  Training is always a problem though.

I'd say just give it a shot and see if it happens again.

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Re: Are the military equipment bugs fixed in 31.09?
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2010, 09:27:01 am »

The equipment bug as it was in previous versions was easily avoided: the cause was equipment being assigned to squad positions, not dwarves and equipment never being unassigned. The workaround was easy if you were fast-building towards a steel industry: never change uniforms, never change dwarves in squads. If you need to make a change, delete the squad completely, assign a temporary squad with uniform "get naked", then delete that squad too before your final squad. It meant you shouldn't change equipment around, especially between training weapons (whcih had no use given the formal training bugs you have to avoid) and live weapons.
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Re: Are the military equipment bugs fixed in 31.09?
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2010, 10:31:47 am »

So far equipment seems to be working much more smoothly with the removal of the arsenal dwarf. The only problem I'm getting is message spam along the lines of, "Urist mcSoldier cancels Pickup Equipment: equipment mismatch." I've found that this actually means that the dwarf realizes, "wait, I already have an axe, I don't need another one," so it's actually a good thing, if just slightly annoying.
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Re: Are the military equipment bugs fixed in 31.09?
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2010, 01:51:36 pm »

I had that problem with .08 quite a bit as I gradually upgraded my equipment from copper to iron to bronze while training my smiths.  I ended up with a lot of dwarves carrying around two shields and three axes and refusing to (D)ump the lower quality items.
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Re: Are the military equipment bugs fixed in 31.09?
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2010, 03:45:09 pm »

Unplayable? A bit of hyperbole, don't you think? Don't equip training weapons, there is absolutely no need whatsoever*. Define some new armor profiles before assigning any military and leave it as that, there is really no need to have to swap equipment all the time.

*Why on earth were they included if training now can't lead to killing sparring partners?
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