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Aqizzar

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"Climategate" Exonerated
« on: July 07, 2010, 04:12:54 pm »

Last fall, there was a round of news and scandalous chatter, about how climate scientists around the world, especially in a government funded research program in Britain, were exchanging emails about what a hard-sell human-caused climate change is and the methods they used to sell itThe furor made its way here.  Long story short, it was discrediting to the research and theory, and in the way of all scandals, was taken as proof positive that the entire field is quackery and everything ever said on the matter should be thrown out the window.

Well, one of the jobs of a government agency is that when a program they fund is questioned, they look into it.  This is a process that takes a while.  And now, about nine months later, the agents appointed by the British government to investigate the academic process of the report have decided the Climate Research Unit at the heart of the matter was completely honest, just defensive and cagey about being questioned.  This was not a review of their data, it was review of their methods and presentation.  And the people whose job it is to decide if academic research is worth their government's recognition decided, for the third time no less, that there was no reason to doubt the honesty of the reports.

I don't raise this story to reopen old arguments or start new ones per se (although I know it will); Lord knows we've had enough of that lately.  I raise this because it's far easier and more popular to jump on the hate train than listen to the conductor.  When an issue is hot, it's hot, and by the time an actual investigation makes a real conclusion, everybody's long since stopped caring if they remember it at all, and the conclusion of the first moment is set in stone forever as the "common wisdom".  When people who know what they're talking about come back later and vindicate other people's work after being made into pariahs, I think that is an event worth mentioning.
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Re: "Climategate" Exonerated
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2010, 04:34:19 pm »



Those Brits don't know what they're talking about Russell is going to come after our kids
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Re: "Climategate" Exonerated
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2010, 04:57:30 pm »

WHAT??? The right-wing media jumped to conclusions without any evidence about what turned out to be nothing?!?!? *shock horror*

Did anyone not see this coming? I mean, seriously, they do that about 500 times a year now; ratings are based on people watching, not on how accurate your "news" is.
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2010, 05:10:38 pm »

Whatever happened to Avian Flu?

I think the issue is more with society as a whole than any particular political spheres.
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2010, 05:23:50 pm »

Damn you, Fox & Friends pic, stop showing up in every thread I browse!
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2010, 05:38:35 pm »

my father took this as evidence that the Jewish conspiracy to take over the world economically via 'green' business (and then kill 80% of the U.S. population in FEMA cattle cars) was beginning to falter.

My father is an evil fucking idiot.
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2010, 05:39:00 pm »

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My grandmother had Fox on, which was covering the possible swap of the Russian spies and the American spy, as far as I understood the newsflash, and more importantly, the Russian spy had nude pics distributed by her bitter ex-husband. How dare she have such compromising photos given to her lover!
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2010, 05:54:09 pm »

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My grandmother had Fox on, which was covering the possible swap of the Russian spies and the American spy, as far as I understood the newsflash, and more importantly, the Russian spy had nude pics distributed by her bitter ex-husband. How dare she have such compromising photos given to her lover!
That group of yahoos in the picture are on the fox 24 hour news channel's show called "Fox & Friends." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_%26_Friends
It's kinda like Barney & Friends, but singing about the sky falling down rather than London Bridge.
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2010, 06:04:28 pm »

Fox does this so often that I'm not sure anyone cares anymore.

Which is exactly what they want.

No word yet on whether or not this lack on interest is part of an overarching conspiracy. But I'm sure it is.
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2010, 06:07:52 pm »

Fox does this so often that I'm not sure anyone cares anymore.

Which is exactly what they want.

No word yet on whether or not this lack on interest is part of an overarching conspiracy. But I'm sure it is.
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Re: "Climategate" Exonerated
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2010, 06:54:36 pm »

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I raise this because it's far easier and more popular to jump on the hate train than listen to the conductor.

Ironic!
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2010, 07:21:44 pm »

I don't get the FOX hate either.  I mean, I get it, but it's not really doing anything here.  I was honestly hoping for a few mea culpas from some of the people in that old thread jumping all over the story as proof of some grand conspiracy.

Anyway, just stay cool people.
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2010, 07:23:29 pm »

Sorry, I guess my sarcastic suggestion of a conspiracy doesn't really cut it.
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2010, 11:19:12 pm »

I don't get the FOX hate either.  I mean, I get it, but it's not really doing anything here.  I was honestly hoping for a few mea culpas from some of the people in that old thread jumping all over the story as proof of some grand conspiracy.

Anyway, just stay cool people.

Sorry, by posting Fox and Friends, I might have broken your thread, because it's actually nigh on impossible to think that Fox and Friends are idiots who know nothing while agreeing with the things they say.

And given a choice, most people will choose to hate Fox and Friends.
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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2010, 11:25:58 pm »

It's true.  Even the right-wingers I know tend to hate FOX, at least the ones who are under 50.
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