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Toybasher

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Making a tower?
« on: July 03, 2010, 03:13:22 pm »

I feel like making a execution tower for unwanted pets, I have no clue how dwarven physics work and know EXTREMELY little and have little confidence  :-[ How would I go about making a ten Z level tower?

Idealily it would be outside and easy to build.
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Re: Making a tower?
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2010, 03:19:54 pm »

If you want "easy to build," just build a stack of up/down stairs and build maybe some floors at the top. Both stairs and floors can be built via the constructions menu (b, then C).

As for dwarven physics, everything is stable as long as it's not suspended in midair, no matter how haphazardly built.
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Re: Making a tower?
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2010, 03:22:39 pm »

Heya;

The very very simplest way to do this is to make constructed upward\downward staircases (b, C, x) once one is finished, another can be built directly above (or below) it. Once you've got 10 or more, make a few floor tiles surrounding the apex. Next, place a pit\pond zone (press i, figure it out) out over the empty space adjecent to the flooring you've built. Next, make a stockpile on top of this flooring, it should accept "Animals." Open the settings for this new stockpile, and disable empty cages\traps (press u and j) and your dwarves ought to bring caged creatures up there.

- But N.D., why do I need to do this?

If your dwarves try to escort a dangerous enemy creature up the stairs, they will lose hold of it on the staircase and get interrupted due to fear and then you have a loose creature roaming your fort. The only way to definitely prevent this, is to store the cage of the creature you want to put into the pit right next to the pit zone itself. In this way, a dwarf will stand on the cage, get the creature out, and instantly throw him over the side, all in a few frames with no chance for the dwarf to get scared, etc.

Check out the Shoving Tower of my old old fort, Bustnut. You can see a large copper pillar with a staircase inside, glass platform for prisoner storage, precariously-balanced terminus and way down below, a grate for blood and body parts to be collected beside the refuse pile. :)

http://www.mkv25.net/dfma/poi-8055-theshovingtower
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Re: Making a tower?
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2010, 03:43:55 pm »

An easy guide for a simple 5x5 tower:

1. Set down a 3x3 set of upward stairs.
2. Set down a 5x1 wall on the north/south side of the tower, leaving a door opening if desired.
3. Set down a 3x1 wall on the east/west side of the tower, leaving a door opening if desired.

To add a floor, repeat steps 1-3, using up/down stairs instead of upward stairs.  If you want a roofed top floor without stair access, then instead of building the final 3x1 wall, build a 3x1 stairway, construct floor tiles to serve as the roof, deconstruct the stairway, and then replace it with a wall.
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Re: Making a tower?
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2010, 06:19:09 pm »

If you want "easy to build," just build a stack of up/down stairs and build maybe some floors at the top. Both stairs and floors can be built via the constructions menu (b, then C).

As for dwarven physics, everything is stable as long as it's not suspended in midair, no matter how haphazardly built.
I'm pretty sure I once managed to suspend a floor in mid-air. It went like this, made one across a small 1 Z-level pit, had some guys go on it, remove the ends, it was on a support, they got down via a staircase which was later destroyed, a level linked to the support was pulled, and nothing happened except the support broke or whatever.
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Re: Making a tower?
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2010, 06:22:20 pm »

^^ That should cause a collapse.  Are you sure you had cave-ins enabled?
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charcharmunro

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Re: Making a tower?
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2010, 06:23:00 pm »

Well, I never changed any of the files, so.. Don't THINK so.
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Re: Making a tower?
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2010, 07:10:05 pm »

It's attached to the sides of the pit, no?
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Re: Making a tower?
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2010, 06:32:21 am »

It was, but I got rid of the parts that were attached because for some reason I couldn't make it so the dwarve would build it on the support.
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