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[Asmageddon]

I was wondering: Will night creature generation ever be able to produce night creatures that feed on/are repelled by abstract concepts, such as happiness, the laughter of children, contentement, rage, etc.?

I'm not Toady, but I don't think so. Perhaps sounds and scents, maaaaybe stuff like hunger, but I doubt about abstract concepts. That would require a very complex AI system, and processing all kinds of sensory data by every creature would be pretty expensive, especially if we'd want them to analyze it carefully to detect abstract concepts.

[Vorthon]

I was wondering: Will night creature generation ever be able to produce night creatures that feed on/are repelled by abstract concepts, such as happiness, the laughter of children, contentement, rage, etc.?

I'm not Toady, but I don't think so. Perhaps sounds and scents, maaaaybe stuff like hunger, but I doubt about abstract concepts. That would require a very complex AI system, and processing all kinds of sensory data by every creature would be pretty expensive, especially if we'd want them to analyze it carefully to detect abstract concepts.

What about generic AoE-type stuff? Eg., every intelligent creature within distance X of a certain type of a night creature gradually becomes more depressed (Or more angry, passive, whatever).

[NW_Kohaku]

I was wondering: Will night creature generation ever be able to produce night creatures that feed on/are repelled by abstract concepts, such as happiness, the laughter of children, contentement, rage, etc.?

I'm not Toady, but I don't think so. Perhaps sounds and scents, maaaaybe stuff like hunger, but I doubt about abstract concepts. That would require a very complex AI system, and processing all kinds of sensory data by every creature would be pretty expensive, especially if we'd want them to analyze it carefully to detect abstract concepts.

If "happiness" repels a monster, then wouldn't you just need to check a dwarf's happiness stat?  It's not like we need to have some sort of "happy-vision" for the player, just make the monster not like going near characters with a high happiness value.

[Totaku]

You know the idea of a night creature feeding off of an emotion would be very amusing. In fact that would be something I'd want to see happen! Cause if there were such night creatures like for example "Feed off of scaring people by surprising them" I could see a whole lot of interesting ideas that could come together for new night creatures.

One case can be the "Dream Eater" a japanese mythical creature that's sort of like a dream catcher, that generally eats peoples dreams (usually nightmares from what I remember). This is the kind of stuff fantasy is made for!

Please make this possible Toady!

[Armok]

I support the idea of creatures interacting with emotions by having them as weaknesses, feeding on them, causing them supernaturally, etc.!

[NW_Kohaku]

You know the idea of a night creature feeding off of an emotion would be very amusing. In fact that would be something I'd want to see happen! Cause if there were such night creatures like for example "Feed off of scaring people by surprising them" I could see a whole lot of interesting ideas that could come together for new night creatures.

One case can be the "Dream Eater" a japanese mythical creature that's sort of like a dream catcher, that generally eats peoples dreams (usually nightmares from what I remember). This is the kind of stuff fantasy is made for!

Please make this possible Toady!

And you have no ulterior reason to want code for a night creature that feeds off of surprising people, eh, "Suika Fortress"?

 

Actually, this discussion on strange creatures has gone on long enough to warrant a suggestion thread.

Here's the thread: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=83426.0

[Asmageddon]

While I find this idea definitely interesting, I don't really think it would be good for gameplay.
No, wait, take that back, this would be a good way of dealing with certain dwarfs who want more happiness than they should have.

Ok, so here we go:
Assuming that someday there will be monsters feeding off emotions and other abstract concepts, do you think we could have creatures that simply prefer or dislike people with certain personality or appearance traits to some extent(for example some creatures could eat only people with scars, some would prefer people who get angry easily, some would completely avoid people with 6 toes and drop dead upon touching them, etc.)?

[Cruxador]

Unless I'm greatly mistaken, the number of toes a person has is not variable.

[Asmageddon]

Yeah, I know, but I guess it's pretty safe to assume that in the future there will be much more personality/appearance traits like this. Am I right, Toady?

[Dae]

Unless I'm gratly mistaken, the number of toes a person has is noth variable.

It should be if we want DF to be a true fantasy generator : how many times have interesting characters started as outcasts because of white hair/cat eyes/claws/scales/tail/whichever mark ?

I'm thinking also of people "touched by the gods" who get an attribute reflecting which god acted upon them, suck as an unusally high body temperature for the god of fire, an icy breath for a cold god...
Also, the Rain Wilders.

[darkflagrance]

Unless I'm gratly mistaken, the number of toes a person has is noth variable.

It wouldn't be hard to make it so. Just add another caste with the appropriate digits :3. Maybe a third eye to go along with the polydactyly.

[Untelligent]

Or he could have gotten 4 of 'em chopped off in a goblin raid.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

there's a cool story to be written, the story of the cheesemaker that purposely mangled himself to go after the monster who killed his wife, then becoming a professional night creature hunter

[IT 000]

Sir Toady

Will wild animals favor targeting certain bodyparts. Like how most large predators go for the throats of creatures? And would we get to mod creatures to tell them what bodyparts they would prefer to target.

Additionally

Will modders ever have the ability to mod other features of ranged weapons? Like reload time or inherent speed of the shot? This could have uses for moders who have modded guns into the game. But also make the game more realistic as Crossbows take longer to reload then bows, but packed more of a punch.

[metime00]

With the re-addition of stable settlements and now larger economic centers with the city, I'm wondering when actual needs such as housing and medicine will be addressed. But that's one of those arbitrary release date prediction things so I'm going to ask something much more feasible to answer.

With settlements back into adventure mode, will we see thirst and hunger be added in during the next release or a subsequent caravan arc release?