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[monk12]

Cows need vocalizations so they can ACTUALLY have hunting moos.

"Urist, we can't stop here! This is cow country!"
"Mooooooo!"
"By Armok, Urist, the pack is closing in! Quickly, to the mines! There isn't much time!"

[Serrational]

Cows need vocalizations so they can ACTUALLY have hunting moos.

"Urist, we can't stop here! This is cow country!"
"Mooooooo!"
"By Armok, Urist, the pack is closing in! Quickly, to the mines! There isn't much time!"

Legendary Milkers, what daredevils they have become in .19....

[Askot Bokbondeler]

what do cows hunt? kittens to graze on

[syvarris]

Cows need vocalizations so they can ACTUALLY have hunting moos.

"Urist, we can't stop here! This is cow country!"
"Mooooooo!"
"By Armok, Urist, the pack is closing in! Quickly, to the mines! There isn't much time!"

Heh, Sigged.

[veok]

Nightcreatures, while cool in many respects, seem to lack fingers and toes to hack off, etc. I assume this is due to the body plan used by randomly generated creatures? It doesn't bother anything, certainly, but if I attack an Elf, I get to choose between 3 pages of tempting targets! (or more!) but with Nightcreatures, the list barely lasts a page (and on that note, I wish destroying the eyes actually made things fight more poorly... unless it does already? ).

[Thundercraft]

Cows need vocalizations so they can ACTUALLY have hunting moos.

Heh! I think you meant to say "haunting moos". Cows with "hunting moos" implies that we have carnivorous predator cows that will ambush things and tear them limb from limb with their fangs.

Have you recently reconsidered allowing constructed floors and walls to be engraved, like natural stone? I just don't understand why constructed stone walls/floors and other surfaces should not be engravable. In real life this is possible, as all it takes is a hammer and chisel...

Also, how about changing it so passing by high quality engravings will give dwarves a minor happy thought? Engraving seems to add a lot to value. So one might naturally assume that it would make dwarves happy to be surrounded by masterpiece engravings.

Edit: ninja'd...

[G-Flex]

Cows need vocalizations so they can ACTUALLY have hunting moos.

Heh! I think you meant to say "haunting moos". Cows with "hunting moos" implies that we have carnivorous predator cows that will ambush things and tear them limb from limb with their fangs.

Have you recently reconsidered allowing constructed floors and walls to be engraved, like natural stone? I just don't understand why constructed stone walls/floors and other surfaces should not be engravable. In real life this is possible, as all it takes is a hammer and chisel...

Also, how about changing it so passing by high quality engravings will give dwarves a minor happy thought? Engraving seems to add a lot to value. So one might naturally assume that it would make dwarves happy to be surrounded by masterpiece engravings.

How many times do people have to say to leave suggestions to the suggestions forum? Seriously, this thread is cluttered enough, and Toady won't be responding to them anyway.

[Footkerchief]

Have you recently reconsidered allowing constructed floors and walls to be engraved, like natural stone? I just don't understand why constructed stone walls/floors and other surfaces should not be engravable. In real life this is possible, as all it takes is a hammer and chisel...

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=30026.msg994813#msg994813

Hey, you know how it's possible to engrave floors? Well, what if I don't LIKE whatever material the floor is? As it stands, I can place artificial floors down with other materials, but not artificial engravings ontop of the natural floors! Will this change in the future? I want my entire fortress to adhere to ONE color scheme!

can I engrave those constructed floors in the future?

I always thought of engraving lots of blocks as sort of weird, at least for a large engraving.  You'll probably be allowed to place larger engraved panels later.

[Kogut]

I would like to have it in my fort.
</suggestions>

[Mephansteras]

If I remember correctly the issue isn't with doing the engravings on the blocks, it's what to do if the blocks are then re-purposed. Say you disassemble that wall and then use those blocks as part of a bridge? Does the game need to remember that they're engraved blocks and what's on them?

[PTTG??]

How about engraving the current stone slabs? Make a new 'C'onstruction menu building that uses stone slabs or engraved stone slabs and makes a wall with that engraving? So it'd be possible to build a wall with an engraving and even tear down that wall.

One problem is that slabs could be decorated with all kinds of stuff, which might not work to well with normal wall tiles.

[Kogut]

If I remember correctly the issue isn't with doing the engravings on the blocks, it's what to do if the blocks are then re-purposed. Say you disassemble that wall and then use those blocks as part of a bridge? Does the game need to remember that they're engraved blocks and what's on them?

No.
It isn't very realistic but may be useful simplification (like 1-log-for-everything-including-walls-and-splints)

[Cruxador]

If I remember correctly the issue isn't with doing the engravings on the blocks, it's what to do if the blocks are then re-purposed. Say you disassemble that wall and then use those blocks as part of a bridge? Does the game need to remember that they're engraved blocks and what's on them?

No.
It isn't very realistic but may be useful simplification (like 1-log-for-everything-including-walls-and-splints)

That one-log thing is going away, though.
We're moving away from placeholders and towards having everything make more sense.

[Narmio]

If I remember correctly the issue isn't with doing the engravings on the blocks, it's what to do if the blocks are then re-purposed. Say you disassemble that wall and then use those blocks as part of a bridge? Does the game need to remember that they're engraved blocks and what's on them?

No.
It isn't very realistic but may be useful simplification (like 1-log-for-everything-including-walls-and-splints)

That one-log thing is going away, though.
We're moving away from placeholders and towards having everything make more sense.

That doesn't mean that new simplifications and placeholders won't be introduced as the scope of the project grows. Toady has recently expanded a number of systems, but when the first few trading rewrites happen you can bet they'll be stuffed full of simplifications and placeholders, at least for a while.  The fact that some simplifications are being expanded on should have no bearing on the introduction of new ones.

And yeah, I think I'd be happy with a wall constructed from a block losing its engraving if it was deconstructed.  A single stone or block is an abstraction anyway, so we can say there's quite a bit of refitting, re-cutting and reshaping involved in deconstructing and then reusing the block for something else. Easy enough to say that that process destroys any engravings.

[rex mortis]

Yes, now I can hunt pandas to extinction. More likely I'll die trying but it will be fun nonetheless.