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[Greiger]

Angle brackets are good I think.  It gives newer players a little more of a sense that the outside modifier isn't related to the inside one.

[TolyK]

hmmm... maybe an init option that's on by default?

[Askot Bokbondeler]

Large Adobe Vessel
Large Stoneware Vessel
Large China Vessel
+<*Large Stoneware Vessel*>+

I could see that.

You know, I've always wondered about having the angle brackets there. I think it's pretty clear that only the centermost quality symbol applies to the object itself. So it could be -+Sword+- instead of -<+Sword+>-.

i'm not sure, but i think there are no-quality decorations, so a vase can be a vase, a <+vase+>, a +<+vase+>+, and a +<vase>+

[PTTG??]

Oh, I suppose that makes sense.

[zwei]

Large Adobe Vessel
Large Stoneware Vessel
Large China Vessel
+<*Large Stoneware Vessel*>+

I could see that.

You know, I've always wondered about having the angle brackets there. I think it's pretty clear that only the centermost quality symbol applies to the object itself. So it could be -+Sword+- instead of -<+Sword+>-.

Is +sword+ a no quality sword with fine decoration or just a fine sword?

[TolyK]

fine sword

[Sowelu]

if it's going to work as a barrel, it should probably specify it's a large vessel and not a bowl or a jug

IMO, 'vessel' is clear and concise enough by itself...though it would be kind of neat to have an in-game glossary (to tell that a door and a portal are the same thing for example).  If you have large vessels, wouldn't that imply the existence of non-large vessels?  Only have adjectives when they distinguish between two things, I say.

[Mephansteras]

Large Adobe Vessel
Large Stoneware Vessel
Large China Vessel
+<*Large Stoneware Vessel*>+

I could see that.

You know, I've always wondered about having the angle brackets there. I think it's pretty clear that only the centermost quality symbol applies to the object itself. So it could be -+Sword+- instead of -<+Sword+>-.

Is +sword+ a no quality sword with fine decoration or just a fine sword?

Good point. Without the <> you'd have no way of knowing.

[nbonaparte]

if it's going to work as a barrel, it should probably specify it's a large vessel and not a bowl or a jug

IMO, 'vessel' is clear and concise enough by itself...though it would be kind of neat to have an in-game glossary (to tell that a door and a portal are the same thing for example).  If you have large vessels, wouldn't that imply the existence of non-large vessels?  Only have adjectives when they distinguish between two things, I say.

The names of certain trap components would disagree.

[PTTG??]

URNS!

Duh! I kept thinking there's a better term than "vessel".

Urn... best thing is you could store dead dwarves in urns too. You can have stone urns, clay urns, metal urns... I suppose you could even carve a wood urn.

[NW_Kohaku]

Since everything in DF is prefaced with its material type, I'm sure people who might otherwise be confused would understand that a "stoneware vessel" is a type of ceramic container.

... I wonder if stoneware "goblets" will be called "steins"

[Cruxador]

Since everything in DF is prefaced with its material type, I'm sure people who might otherwise be confused would understand that a "stoneware vessel" is a type of ceramic container.

... I wonder if stoneware "goblets" will be called "steins"

Goblets and steins are significantly different. A stein is more like a mug.

[NW_Kohaku]

But in the game, "goblet" is the category, "mug" items are carved from stone, and "cups" are carved from wood.  Those names are just different descrpition of "hand-held fluid containing device" that all work the same in-game except have a different name.

It's one of those little things that make me giddy to think that we'll be able to make stoneware steins (or whatever term actually gets associated with it) with images of whatever in cobalt blue glaze as a decoration.

[Mel_Vixen]

Er you know that "stein" aka "Steinzeug" (which in english is btw. Stoneware) just means a ceramic that has (almost) sealed its surface (works even without glazing) during firing at 1200°C to 1300°C? Some variants are salt glazed though.

[G-Flex]

By "stein" they are referring to these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_stein