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[The Merchant Of Menace]

That won't be up 'til the adventurer skill arc. and Toady did mention a pasture for fort mode. I believe it was implemented for the next release.

[Alehkhs]

High five fellow Virginian 

Actually at the moment I am getting snowed under on Cape Cod with my grandmother. It'd be a perfect day for DF if I had a computer more powerful than a 1.2ghz netbook with me. Technically playable, but it gets too slow too soon. It's also a really cramped keyboard.

That sucks! its just starting to get a bit warmer here (in Virginia Beach)...which I am very glad about...

Well, NOVA just got a ton of snow/rain dumped on it.

[abadidea]

High five fellow Virginian 

Actually at the moment I am getting snowed under on Cape Cod with my grandmother. It'd be a perfect day for DF if I had a computer more powerful than a 1.2ghz netbook with me. Technically playable, but it gets too slow too soon. It's also a really cramped keyboard.

That sucks! its just starting to get a bit warmer here (in Virginia Beach)...which I am very glad about...

Well, NOVA just got a ton of snow/rain dumped on it.

Which has delayed my father coming to rescue me, which delays me being able to get a new computer, which delays me being able to play Dwarf Fortress in all its glory. 

[Alehkhs]

High five fellow Virginian 

Actually at the moment I am getting snowed under on Cape Cod with my grandmother. It'd be a perfect day for DF if I had a computer more powerful than a 1.2ghz netbook with me. Technically playable, but it gets too slow too soon. It's also a really cramped keyboard.

That sucks! its just starting to get a bit warmer here (in Virginia Beach)...which I am very glad about...

Well, NOVA just got a ton of snow/rain dumped on it.

Which has delayed my father coming to rescue me, which delays me being able to get a new computer, which delays me being able to play Dwarf Fortress in all its glory. 

Unfortunately, all these snowy days might also delay me from getting my new computer, as it means I get paid less when the check is written in a month.

[NW_Kohaku]

Sorry to pile on the "ceramics" questions, but I just rejoined the forums after a three-month absence. 

I was trying to get up to date on the updates, and came across the ceramics post that was put up on the sixteenth, and I was at first a little concerned, but then became very excited.

One of the things that I really love about Dwarf Fortress is that it lets me start getting very technical, and I start learning some things about, say, the difference between mafic and felsic magma.  And one of the conversations I really learned a lot about was when Gazz taught me about pottery in one of the suggestion threads I participated in.

Essentially, the question I want to ask is will the ceramics be like the one in this thread on ceramics?  Will we have just "clay" as a soil type to work with, or can we fire up any kind of soil to make terra cotta, so that it is (rightly) a material everyone with access to most types of dirt can make?  Can we wood glaze pots?  Do we need sand or crushed feldspar to glaze? Are glazes necessary to make a water-tight storage jug? Are we going to be crushing a single metal ore unit to make, say, 50 pots worth of glazes which can then be used to make decorations? I hate to think we have to use an entire metal unit for one pot's decoration.

Honestly, the attention to realism on this one really makes or breaks my hopes and dreams.  If this is actually very similar to what was discussed in the suggestion thread, I will love you forever... foreverer than I already do, at least.

edit: to be more precise

[Sunday]

Sorry to pile on the "ceramics" questions, but I just rejoined the forums after a three-month absence. 

I was trying to get up to date on the updates, and came across the ceramics post that was put up on the sixteenth, and I was at first a little concerned, but then became very excited.

One of the things that I really love about Dwarf Fortress is that it lets me start getting very technical, and I start learning some things about, say, the difference between mafic and felsic magma.  And one of the conversations I really learned a lot about was when Gazz taught me about pottery in one of the suggestion threads I participated in.

Essentially, the question I want to ask is will the ceramics be like the one in this thread on ceramics?  Will we have just "clay" as a soil type to work with, or can we fire up any kind of soil to make terra cotta, so that it is (rightly) a material everyone with access to dirt can make?  Can we wood glaze pots?  Do we need sand or crushed feldspar to glaze? Are we going to be crushing a single metal ore unit to make, say, 50 pots worth of glazes which can then be used to make decorations? I hate to think we have to use an entire metal unit for one pot's decoration.

Honestly, the attention to realism on this one really makes or breaks my hopes and dreams.  If this is actually very similar to what was discussed in the suggestion thread, I will love you forever... foreverer than I already do, at least.

Hmmm. I'd be surprised if any soil worked for terracotta. IRL, terracotta—as with all clays—needs clay of a certain quality to be viable for use. And there are better terracottas and worse terracottas, depending on where the clay's collected.

Clay itself is made up of certain minerals (phyllosilicates, IIRC). If the soil doesn't have those minerals, then it isn't going to work as clay.

[MrWiggles]

Spoiler: NW_Kohaku Post (click to show/hide)

Sorry to pile on the "ceramics" questions, but I just rejoined the forums after a three-month absence. 

I was trying to get up to date on the updates, and came across the ceramics post that was put up on the sixteenth, and I was at first a little concerned, but then became very excited.

One of the things that I really love about Dwarf Fortress is that it lets me start getting very technical, and I start learning some things about, say, the difference between mafic and felsic magma.  And one of the conversations I really learned a lot about was when Gazz taught me about pottery in one of the suggestion threads I participated in.

Essentially, the question I want to ask is will the ceramics be like the one in this thread on ceramics?  Will we have just "clay" as a soil type to work with, or can we fire up any kind of soil to make terra cotta, so that it is (rightly) a material everyone with access to dirt can make?  Can we wood glaze pots?  Do we need sand or crushed feldspar to glaze? Are we going to be crushing a single metal ore unit to make, say, 50 pots worth of glazes which can then be used to make decorations? I hate to think we have to use an entire metal unit for one pot's decoration.

Honestly, the attention to realism on this one really makes or breaks my hopes and dreams.  If this is actually very similar to what was discussed in the suggestion thread, I will love you forever... foreverer than I already do, at least.

Hmmm. I'd be surprised if any soil worked for terracotta. IRL, terracotta—as with all clays—needs clay of a certain quality to be viable for use. And there are better terracottas and worse terracottas, depending on where the clay's collected.

Clay itself is made up of certain minerals (phyllosilicates, IIRC). If the soil doesn't have those minerals, then it isn't going to work as clay.

These finer technical details were already discussed in the linked Clay & Ceramic thread.

[NW_Kohaku]

On a completely different note, some of the things I am reading about the backlog of discussions makes me have to ask...

Will there be respect for different "burial customs"?  I, for one, have started to prefer the "Proper Dwarven Funeral" method of flooding a burial chamber with magma, encasing the dwarf in obsidian, then making a statue out of his/her obsidian.  It's just dwarfier that way.  Will this now mean I have to choose between not having personally amusing burial practices and being annoyed by the results of my "desecration of the bodies"?

edit (and edit again): Actually, while I'm on topic...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Will hauntings always be negative?  If there is, say, a favorite sword of a great warrior, and the warrior haunts it, can you somehow become drinking buddies with the ghost, and have him give you pointers and training on the way to becoming a great warrior in his footsteps, or have him give you quests to avenge his honor, or give you bonuses to combat or stay up at night watching out for ambushes while you sleep?

For that matter, for those of us who find all this combat-related stuff boring, will there eventually be haunted books formerly possessed by legendary bibliophiles who terrorize dwarves with their long, rambling stories pulled from random bits of legends data?

Will this eventually be used to explore how the afterlife works, or is this just "bury or get annoyed" forever?

Will dwarves ever get used to some ghosts?

Urist: "AAAA! What was that?!"

Morul: "Oh, you're new here, are you?  It's just old Asmel McDiesHorribly.  She died horribly, you know."

Urist: "What does she want?"

Morul: "She probably just wants attention.  Always was a drama queen.  Can't even stop moaning at us in death."

Asmel: "OooooOOOOooooh!  Nobody ever comes to visit meeeeEEEEeeee!"

Morul: "Well o'course not, ya daffy wench! There's a giant flamin' crab that shoots boulders from its mouth that went and made a nest near yer body!  It's how ya died, remember?"

Asmel: "Well, IT comes to visit meeeeEEEeee!"

For that matter, if we have "friendly ghosts" at some point, will we get some way to summon the peaceful dead?  Maybe visit old friends at the cemetary in a rather literal way?  Seems kind of dickish if the dead only hang around to annoy the living, but can't be bothered to have a few nice things to say to the people leaving flowers at their grave...

Generally, I'm not all that interested in anything whose only means you have of interacting with it is killing it or being killed by it, and something like a ghost that you can't interact with at all, other than by having your dwarves run away from it or having it toss around your furniture until you just eliminate it from the game sounds like it's nothing but an annoyance to the player without adding anything for the player to enjoy.

[nbonaparte]

Perhaps that could be a matter of ethics. Burial choices by race.

[Flaede]

I was enjoying the idea of that dwarf ghost starting parties. I'd like more of that kind of thing. Or even more "defenders of the weak" ghosts, that chase off sieges. >  I'd've kept him around, too, except I wanted to get at the goblinite, and he was... territorial.

[Caldfir]

Will there be respect for different "burial customs"?  I, for one, have started to prefer the "Proper Dwarven Funeral" method of flooding a burial chamber with magma, encasing the dwarf in obsidian, then making a statue out of his/her obsidian.  It's just dwarfier that way.  Will this now mean I have to choose between not having personally amusing burial practices and being annoyed by the results of my "desecration of the bodies"?

You can always carve them a burial slab out of the obsidian.  Perhaps not as dorfy as a statue, but still gets the idea across.

[darkflagrance]

I was enjoying the idea of that dwarf ghost starting parties. I'd like more of that kind of thing. Or even more "defenders of the weak" ghosts, that chase off sieges. >  I'd've kept him around, too, except I wanted to get at the goblinite, and he was... territorial.

I loved the old "Ghostly Mason has organized party" 'bug'. I was hoping it wouldn't be removed (has it been?)

[monk12]

Here I was gonna make a bad Hotel California joke, only to find that the etymology of California is a matter open to debate. I am at once saddened and enlightened.

[Untelligent]

Mead!

[Bralbaard]

Mead!