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Author Topic: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page  (Read 1611028 times)

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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #2910 on: January 10, 2011, 09:01:33 am »

Hmm. I've got a question about something that's relatively nigh-useless but would be fun nonetheless! I know that a lot of the framework is already in the game for it (lists of descriptors, etc) but it hasn't been implemented.

Will we ever be able to customize the "look" of our characters in adventure mode? Rather than just set the skills.

I know this is an ASCII game and it doesn't much matter, but still! It would be cool.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #2911 on: January 10, 2011, 09:21:07 am »

of course culture could trump biology.

I think it's mostly the other way around, like 'not eating pig/raw meat' which is very very bad for you in a desert was embedded in desert dwelling cultures - in general, look further than the standard muslims; jews have their kosher stuff too which, unsurprisingly, forbid usage of animals which died of natural death and for the same reason Yoreh De'ah forbids drinking still water (water that is still for more than one night, that is).

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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #2912 on: January 10, 2011, 10:04:46 am »

Will we ever be able to customize the "look" of our characters in adventure mode? Rather than just set the skills.

It's come up before:
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Will be possible to edit the adventurer apperance or at least know about his apperance?

You can look at yourself and others.  Changing the appearance would be an interface to write, which isn't the end of the day.  You should certainly be able to customize yourself later on, at least in one version of the start setup (versus historical scenarios or whatever), since it's good to be able to be whatever you want to be.  It'll probably depend on prodding or just me eventually doing it.  Since you pick out where you are from first, it'll probably be constrained by the entity/race settings, with options to break convention or something.  Breaking reality (ie making a blue-skinned human) is more difficult because of how the appearance variables are indexed, and there might even be some issues there with breaking out of entity stylings, though I don't think there are.
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« Reply #2913 on: January 10, 2011, 11:03:46 am »

I think it's mostly the other way around, like 'not eating pig/raw meat' which is very very bad for you in a desert was embedded in desert dwelling cultures - in general, look further than the standard muslims; jews have their kosher stuff too which, unsurprisingly, forbid usage of animals which died of natural death and for the same reason Yoreh De'ah forbids drinking still water (water that is still for more than one night, that is).

look further the culture and in the realm of superstitions and proverbs, and you'll find good survival traits

Exactly, culture can trump biology.
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« Reply #2914 on: January 10, 2011, 12:15:57 pm »

Sorry if this has been addressed recently, but...

With the addition of eggs and vegetable oil, it's gotten me wondering. Are there any plans to overhaul cooking at all in the near future? For example, meals that require certain ingredients to be included?

It just seems such a shame that with so many ingredients available, like milk and eggs and all the different body parts, we're still limited to nonsensical biscuits and roasts...
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #2915 on: January 10, 2011, 03:54:15 pm »

From fiction (may not be true of DF universe) we also know that dragons hibernate, and like caves. If they like caves they cannot be cold blooded (or at least it seems less likley).

Deep caves should have pretty constant temperature year-round, so I think that could work for a cold-blooded creature.
[/quote]Why would a dragon be cold blooded? They breathe FIRE.
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« Reply #2916 on: January 10, 2011, 04:07:58 pm »

Breathing fire doesn't imply they have to be warm-blooded. Of course, it doesn't mean they have to be cold-blooded either, but it fits. You don't need to be warm-blooded to produce a flaming chemical out of your mouth, especially not if you're doing it presumably via magic.

Being cold-blooded makes a lot of thermodynamic sense for a creature that lies dormant fairly often, and caves are a good place to do that.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #2917 on: January 10, 2011, 04:15:38 pm »

I think it's mostly the other way around, like 'not eating pig/raw meat' which is very very bad for you in a desert was embedded in desert dwelling cultures - in general, look further than the standard muslims; jews have their kosher stuff too which, unsurprisingly, forbid usage of animals which died of natural death and for the same reason Yoreh De'ah forbids drinking still water (water that is still for more than one night, that is).

look further the culture and in the realm of superstitions and proverbs, and you'll find good survival traits

Exactly, culture can trump biology.

Except that goats do the same thing, for the same reason.  Well, they avoid still water, not so sure about the not-eating-pork thing.  I mean, they don't eat pork, obviously, but I think that has more to do with their lack of incisors than their keeping kosher.  But, come to think of it, I haven't asked...

In all seriousness, any social mammal is making the same bet.  Look at any herd or pack and you'll see that they do take in outsiders and, sometimes, they'll outcompete a rival group and then pick up members of that group.  Of course they're not "enslaving" them, but all the same tenets of the Ayn Rand version of evolution are being broken by any social animal.  While competition is an important part of evolution, cooperation is as well.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #2918 on: January 10, 2011, 04:29:32 pm »

Which, for social animals, make a lot of sense. While adding in outsiders doesn't directly affect your genes, it may give you a better chance of passing all/some of them on. For instance, you get a wider selection of potential mates within the group. You also have more individuals doing things like finding food, watching out for predators, protecting the group, and if someone gets killed it might even mean that it's someone not related to you (which does help your genes be the ones passed on, in a way).
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« Reply #2919 on: January 10, 2011, 04:49:58 pm »

I feel one major point for eggnapping has been overlooked so far (unless I've managed to miss it); For every egg taken you not only gain a new member, the rival tribe also looses one of theirs. Double the gain!
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« Reply #2920 on: January 10, 2011, 05:53:49 pm »

Looking through creature_standard, dwarves and humans have the MAXAGE tag. Elves, goblins,and dragons do not. Dragons are biologically immortal.

Goblins are immortal? o______________o
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« Reply #2921 on: January 10, 2011, 05:56:27 pm »

Looking through creature_standard, dwarves and humans have the MAXAGE tag. Elves, goblins,and dragons do not. Dragons are biologically immortal.

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« Reply #2922 on: January 11, 2011, 02:07:25 am »

humans and chimps share 99% of the DNA...and i meant like kobolds need young dwarf blood to either incubate their eggs or use it as a catalyst for fertilization, or mate with dwarves simply...and kobolds are more half-dwarf, half...kobold, but the kobold traits are always dominant...though the xenomorph idea IS really cool

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omg...has lycanthropy been suggested?...or non-fairy vampirism?  prolly has, so i guess im asking if magical diseases have been planned...eventually
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« Reply #2923 on: January 11, 2011, 02:27:36 am »

Just out of curiosity, what is "non-fairy vampirism" supposed to be? Vampire fairies are kind of a hilarious idea though, fluttering around nipping people on the arms.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #2924 on: January 11, 2011, 08:13:33 am »

Just out of curiosity, what is "non-fairy vampirism" supposed to be? Vampire fairies are kind of a hilarious idea though, fluttering around nipping people on the arms.

there was a thread about it no long ago http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=71994.0
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