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[Dante]

Okay, seeeecret question under the spoiler:

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Will we ever have ghosts that appear even if you bury your dead properly? Because I want ghosts but I like having elaborate tombs. Maybe ghosts with unfinished business, like if they were murdered. Of course, we need murder first. Which would be awesome.

We already have varieties of

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ghost, which presumably are based on what happened to them in life. But it would be neat to have even properly-memorialised ones hanging around for a while, trying to finish carrying the boulder they were hauling just before they died to a stockpile. :-P

As soon as we get more diabolical undead - ghouls, liches, whatever goes in - I'm going to have elaborate mausoleums for my important dwarves and no burial at all for my warriors, just dumping their bodies into the halls of my best tombs to guard them for all eternity.

[TolyK]

seeing the focus on vehicles/boats (see last toady update) I have decided to finally post my megathread about it.

toady please look at: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=72675.new#new

[Dante]

I don't know if it was asked, but:
Will we be able to send dwarves for a job of exploring and mapping the caverns? As in, telling the dwarves to map certain "blacked out" regions of the embark map, such as the ones in caverns?

A cat will do this for you. It's their innate behaviour to explore all nooks and crannies of wherever they are. Don't ask how the cat communicates back the map information to you.

Dwarf cats evolved from the elusive cave dolphin, and therefore have sonar, and a strange psionic power which allows them to send messages from deep in the caverns, possess dwarves completely, and secretly report back to their briny masters.

[Demki]

I don't know if it was asked, but:
Will we be able to send dwarves for a job of exploring and mapping the caverns? As in, telling the dwarves to map certain "blacked out" regions of the embark map, such as the ones in caverns?

A cat will do this for you. It's their innate behaviour to explore all nooks and crannies of wherever they are. Don't ask how the cat communicates back the map information to you.

Dwarf cats evolved from the elusive cave dolphin, and therefore have sonar, and a strange psionic power which allows them to send messages from deep in the caverns, possess dwarves completely, and secretly report back to their briny masters.

I think my puppies are more evolved than my cats. I have 29865(estimated number) puppies, and punny 5 kittens.

[Vertigon]

Hmm. If our fortresses are the only way to produce adamantine, won't it be even more valuable than it is now? I never sell it because it's just not worth it, but in a supply-and-demand economy, I foresee merchants squabbling over the dwarves' precious metals

[iyaerP]

Quote from: Desdichado
when will item decay and item damage make it in? Will decay hit even mundane objects like chalices and doors? And will decay exist in worldgen, too, in some abstract form?


Decay already occurs for things like doors, although it is hard to see in practice most of the time.  I'm not sure when we'll get item damage.  When there's a big combat push, I imagine it'll be up there now.  I don't have it yet, but I'm pretty sure we'll see some objects in stockpiles passing to debris/disappear just to make things make sense.  We might not get to larger scale ruins until we get to that part officially, dev-wise.

In that vein, will cotton candy items suffer from decay and battle damage? Because given how limited supply is, I would hate to have to replace 10 ada shields after every battle, or something along those lines. Steel/iron shields I wouldn't mind replacing, but the blue metal is significantly more difficult to stock up on.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

i imagine it'd go like this, if you fight copper equipped enemies you probably wont have to worry about repairing your iron shields,

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 so adamantine might wear, but you probably would have to fight a champion wielding an artifact or a particularly badass megabeast for it to be an issue.

[Nivim]

Quote from: Desdichado
when will item decay and item damage make it in? Will decay hit even mundane objects like chalices and doors? And will decay exist in worldgen, too, in some abstract form?


Decay already occurs for things like doors, although it is hard to see in practice most of the time.  I'm not sure when we'll get item damage.  When there's a big combat push, I imagine it'll be up there now.  I don't have it yet, but I'm pretty sure we'll see some objects in stockpiles passing to debris/disappear just to make things make sense.  We might not get to larger scale ruins until we get to that part officially, dev-wise.

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In that vein, will cotton candy items suffer from decay and battle damage? Because given how limited supply is, I would hate to have to replace 10 ada shields after every battle, or something along those lines. Steel/iron shields I wouldn't mind replacing, but the blue metal is significantly more difficult to stock up on.

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 I'd expect adamantium would have legendary durability, and thus unlike mortal metals, never need to be replaced.

If you care at all about keeping such things a surprise, why do you use those "spoiler" words instead of actual spoiler tags? Changing the names doesn't help if you're just going to talk about the details anyway! The only people who would know to stop reading after those silly names are those that already know what they mean.

Okay, seeeecret question under the spoiler:

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Will we ever have ghosts that appear even if you bury your dead properly? Because I want ghosts but I like having elaborate tombs. Maybe ghosts with unfinished business, like if they were murdered. Of course, we need murder first. Which would be awesome.

Spoiler: We already have varieties of... (click to show/hide)

...ghost, which presumably are based on what happened to them in life. But it would be neat to have even properly-memorialised ones hanging around for a while, trying to finish carrying the boulder they were hauling just before they died to a stockpile. :-P

As soon as we get more diabolical undead - ghouls, liches, whatever goes in - I'm going to have elaborate mausoleums for my important dwarves and no burial at all for my warriors, just dumping their bodies into the halls of my best tombs to guard them for all eternity.

(I think it's sufficiently removed.) I recall quite a bit of fiction or history, from Morrowind, China, and The King of Dragon Pass that include kinds of ancestor worship in place of god worship, thinking of them as guardians or sources of divination. Are you planning on going in that direction when you take care of religions?

[sweitx]

Quote from: Desdichado
when will item decay and item damage make it in? Will decay hit even mundane objects like chalices and doors? And will decay exist in worldgen, too, in some abstract form?


Decay already occurs for things like doors, although it is hard to see in practice most of the time.  I'm not sure when we'll get item damage.  When there's a big combat push, I imagine it'll be up there now.  I don't have it yet, but I'm pretty sure we'll see some objects in stockpiles passing to debris/disappear just to make things make sense.  We might not get to larger scale ruins until we get to that part officially, dev-wise.

In that vein, will cotton candy items suffer from decay and battle damage? Because given how limited supply is, I would hate to have to replace 10 ada shields after every battle, or something along those lines. Steel/iron shields I wouldn't mind replacing, but the blue metal is significantly more difficult to stock up on.

I would hazard a guess that item decay and battle damage scales with the strength of the material.
Admantium items may be completely indestructable (suffers no decay nor battle damage).

[Askot Bokbondeler]

spoiler that.

[codezero]

Good work on the trade depth Toady, I've been waiting for it since the 3d version.

[Neonivek]

Toady how far away are we from having the Trade Depot include the citizens of the fortress for their own goods, or for Carrivan run shops? (It just seems like an interesting idea to have a bunch of shots around the trade depot)

[Quatch]

With the new caravan focus on trading, will we get any improvements to the fortress mode trade screen? I'm thinking about commands like mass-select; trade all but bins; list things by type (armor/food/raw materials); don't display mandate violating items; etc.

[bowdown2q]

With the new caravan focus on trading, will we get any improvements to the fortress mode trade screen? I'm thinking about commands like mass-select; trade all but bins; list things by type (armor/food/raw materials); don't display mandate violating items; etc.

In this vein, Will we get the ability to cull/select by material? For instance, culling all wood items would be great in case I miss one when trading to elves.

[Areyar]

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This is more a suggestion, but hell...

In adventure mode, the part of the map visible to you depends on the civ you start from.
How about extending this 'known world' info into dwarfmode and allow only settling in the area known (or slightly beyond)?

Alternatively, with caravan roleplay being developed,
How about leading the expedition from the mountainhomes to where you strike the earth as an adventurer?

This former should probably be optional, to avoid alienating DF purists. I feel something like this would create a stronger link between dwarf and advenurer mode, as you will want to create an adventurer to explore.
Prospecting for good spots could be a quest too.

and then I find it has been suggested multiple times already...logical actually.
Such as here: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=3683.msg54948#msg54948
Sorry, I would have deleted this post...but could not.

So... nice work on that decay rate T, now that goods have become consumable, trade makes more sense.
Now we need individuals buying or just grabbing those goods, even if they are not yet using that flute to make music, owning it will give a nice happy thought in the meantime.