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[Footkerchief]

EDIT: It just occurred to me, will aimed shots be in for ranged attacks as well?  It'd be sweet if my legendary marksdwarf can start rattling off headshots like they're going out of style, and my hunters stop throwing three quivers of bolts into particularly stubborn deer.

Heph just asked this above.

Since creatures are now able to identify an opportunity to deal a decisive blow into whatever they're fighting, how will they behave when there's no special oportunities to say, hack someone's head off? Will they just fight normaly as they did, or they will try certain things, like disarming you or trying to put you off balance to achieve that opportunity for lethal damage?

Making the AI plan multi-stage maneuvers, like disarmament or putting you off balance in preparation for a strike, is probably not the kind of feature that would be implemented in a day, and it's not closely related to any of the features he did implement.  He'd have mentioned it.

how soon are there gonna be rewards,alfter finishing a mission?
like an object with moneytary value,or a bag `o gold?
people would like to have a MOTIVE to finish quests.

well,how the hell are you gonna buy something,when you got no money?

This point was addressed in the devlog, and is one of the goals for the release:

Everybody in town will have something for you to do or be able to direct you somewhere definite, and you'll be remembered for what you do, which should allow you to move on to better things with more buddies, or give you a place to sleep safely at night.

[Untelligent]

Will aimed attacks and wrestling attacks be organized with submenus?  Scrolling through 8 pages of possible wrestling moves (only 2 of which I ever use) becomes tiring.

Seems to me that first you select what you want to attack, then you select what you want to do to it. It's not perfect, but it's much better than, say, the current wrestling system.

Also I just noticed that with weapons with multiple attacks (such as slashing with a sword vs. stabbing or slapping), you can choose which action to use now. It makes a bunch of my mod weapons that exploited the randomness of that (along with blunt attacks being much less common) unfeasible now, but I can live with that.


EDIT: just thought of something:

Will all this aimed attack stuff be optional (i.e. toggled via a menu in-game)? It's great for tough battles, but when I'm fighting a horde of crundles it might be more efficient to turn off tactical combat for a few minutes.

[ManaUser]

So... will I be able to bite people now?

[Footkerchief]

Toady what are views on gods and forces manifesting or rather having physical bodies whether it being their true body, Avatar, or even a avatar tied into their being? Will they ever appear? How powerful will they be?

This has come up before:

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=30026.msg852293;topicseen#msg852293

Some tidbits on the divine manifestation thing:

The elves aren't exactly monotheistic -- they believe in a force, not a deity, so it's a bit more like the animism you want, though not precisely (it's the spirit of the forest), or Star Wars before the bacteria worship.   They don't try to talk to the force, anyway, unlike the deity-worshippers in adv mode, and they'd mock anybody that tried (not that it takes much to set them off), though "feeling it" would certainly be fair game.  The force concept is specifically meant to allow supernatural activity without personification, although the random names are sometimes suggestive of a personification.  If the force were to manifest itself in the forest as a giant stag or something, it would be more like a deity, though when I get there, there is bound to be some fuzziness.

Now, the reason gods are treated like historical figures is so that eventually they can manifest and run around in worlds where they actually exist, but that won't be done until it's done.  There's nothing really preventing it from being the next thing to go in, but that's true of many, many things.

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=30026.msg853384;topicseen#msg853384

And while it's probably slated for much later, what kind of interaction is there between these physical demons and the gods civilizations come up with?  Presumably, those gods will eventually stop being so imaginary all the time.

I have no idea when the gods will become more real, but theoretically yeah, they'd have something to do with something.  That might be a good time to start randomizing the metaphysics and doing creation myths, instead of using the fixed model we've got now with titans + demons etc., so that the interactions can be more varied.

[Untelligent]

So... will I be able to bite people now?

There's options in the screenshots for biting and scratching, so that's a definite yes. Unless Toady was a sword-wielding groundhog hero or something.

[isitanos]

Hmm, with a long creature such as an alligator you'd expect some bodyparts to be harder to reach due to your relative position. However in this screenshot all bodyparts say "Simple strike, direct hit".

[VPellen]

in this screenshot all bodyparts say "Simple strike, direct hit".

I think that alligator is meant to be unconscious.

[Rockphed]

Hmm, with a long creature such as an alligator you'd expect some bodyparts to be harder to reach due to your relative position. However in this screenshot all bodyparts say "Simple strike, direct hit".

That was supposed to show how things work against an incapacitated creature.  I think.  Thus, since they are just lying there, you can lop any parts you want.  If you decide not to lop off their head, they could theoretically wake up minus body parts.

[Neonivek]

This has come up before

But not in a way that sufficiantly answers my question which is more about how gods will manifest in full and how powerful Toady really expects them to be since they can be anywhere from Megabeast strength, which makes sense given that some megabeasts actually were birthed from gods in myth and legends, to even so beyond that to the point where Toady would either make them unstoppable or simply not capable of existing in a real form. Then there is what risks a god actually takes when fighting in their physical form, for example if a god manifests are they even harmed by being defeated? and since Footkerchief commented Toady is very likely to skip over it.

Meaning that I may have to ask the same question... again...

*sigh*

Though maybe I should take it as a sign that I should elaborate or at least not be afraid of posting huge questions.

[thvaz]

-SNIP-

Meaning that I may have to ask the same question... again...

*sigh*

Though maybe I should take it as a sign that I should elaborate or at least not be afraid of posting huge questions.

Or maybe as Toady isn't doing nothing even nearly related to gods at the moment, he doesn't know yet what exactly he will implement when the time comes... and this is the reason most of us makes questions related to current developments.

Not that you shouldn't, just that Toady is more likely to given precise answers for questions about what he is doing.

[James.Denholm]

Hmm, with a long creature such as an alligator you'd expect some bodyparts to be harder to reach due to your relative position. However in this screenshot all bodyparts say "Simple strike, direct hit".

That was supposed to show how things work against an incapacitated creature.  I think.  Thus, since they are just lying there, you can lop any parts you want.  If you decide not to lop off their head, they could theoretically wake up minus body parts.

This causes me to recall the discussion earlier about the deliberate amputations...

Urist McDoctor: "Now, Urist McSuperSoldier, declare me your enemy and allow me to knock you out. This will allow me to preform precision com- I mean, precision amputations. With my sword."

[isitanos]

Hmm, with a long creature such as an alligator you'd expect some bodyparts to be harder to reach due to your relative position. However in this screenshot all bodyparts say "Simple strike, direct hit".

That was supposed to show how things work against an incapacitated creature.  I think.  Thus, since they are just lying there, you can lop any parts you want.  If you decide not to lop off their head, they could theoretically wake up minus body parts.

Makes sense.

[Neonivek]

-SNIP-

Meaning that I may have to ask the same question... again...

*sigh*

Though maybe I should take it as a sign that I should elaborate or at least not be afraid of posting huge questions.

Or maybe as Toady isn't doing nothing even nearly related to gods at the moment, he doesn't know yet what exactly he will implement when the time comes... and this is the reason most of us makes questions related to current developments.

Not that you shouldn't, just that Toady is more likely to given precise answers for questions about what he is doing.

Then I would only be asking him about his current development.

[Knigel]

With the implementation of aimed attacks, will the previously mentioned aimed defending be far behind?

I'm asking this because, as awesome as aimed attacks are going to be, I'm afraid they might make most defenses ineffective and lead to even a moderately armored units being instantly killed when even a weak unit gets a lucky neck shot. Which would make progress in Adventure Mode incredibly difficult.

Granted, this may not be too big an issue depending on what decides difficulty in attacking certain body parts.

[dennislp3]

http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/imgs/aim1.png

Judging by that pic I think its balanced to work with positioning (some say cant land squarely/cant connect) and the more vital areas seem difficult enough (head is difficult strike, most are normal, and arms are easy relative to position)...but then again this is one pic with minimal details....