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[Rose]

castle walls and a keep


seems authentic to me.

[tfaal]

Will the unwinnable quests to kill friendly demon civ-leaders be no-more with this release?

[skaltum]

ahh i'm sure this is appropriate with the latest update on 27/10/2010

Now that the human civilisation have improved and larger castles

When will you begin to implement more seige engines, or perhaps a mini mode such as the arena where the player is in command of the defenders or attackers and has catapults, seige towers battering rams etc at there disposal?, will it also be possible to implement a feature where destroyed towers or sections of walls would cause a cave in?

[Sowelu]

I look forwards to seeing these castles in ruined conditions, with their walls halfway torn down, corners of the keep's ceiling toppled over and the ground littered with stones...

[Cruxador]

castle walls and a keep


seems authentic to me.

There should also be stables at the very least, and probably some decent amount of living space outside the keep, since most castles expanded a bit in population after the construction was completed.

Otherwise, they'd be much less big, because all that empty space in the middle isn't good for anything, (a field would be a good bit smaller than that) and walls aren't cheap to build.

[darkflagrance]

castle walls and a keep


seems authentic to me.

There should also be stables at the very least, and probably some decent amount of living space outside the keep, since most castles expanded a bit in population after the construction was completed.

Otherwise, they'd be much less big, because all that empty space in the middle isn't good for anything, (a field would be a good bit smaller than that) and walls aren't cheap to build.

Wall-building might be energy-expensive and time-consuming for npcs (and players) but for a Toady One it only takes a simple script to give every lord his own megaproject residence!


...Kinda hope we eventually get the raws or a means to edit the building scripts for world-genned buildings.

[Footkerchief]

When will you begin to implement more seige engines, or perhaps a mini mode such as the arena where the player is in command of the defenders or attackers and has catapults, seige towers battering rams etc at there disposal?, will it also be possible to implement a feature where destroyed towers or sections of walls would cause a cave in?

Toady has talked about siege engines a couple times:

With the improved sieges (sometime soon after this release, likely) will come a different and more properly supported notion of a moving vehicle (say, a siege tower), likely as a set of tiles handled something like constructions, but with the ability to move as a unit (along with any creatures or items in their tiles).

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=60554.msg1377634#msg1377634

When stone fall traps are going to actually be stones falling from a level above, will catapults at the same time also be changed to they actually fire stones in arches and can hit multiple Z-levels? Also on the topic of siege weapons, are there plans for aimed/diagonal shots?

We want to have them fire in arcs, yeah, though I'm not sure what is going to fall out of the siege engine changes.  It would of course be cool to siege a site with a bunch of crazy dwarf-built siege weapons you build up that can blow out designated sections of wall and do all kinds of horrible things to structures and soldiers alike.  It relates back to how the lifts and other stuff works out.  It's weird in a way to build siege engines tile by tile, and a little fussy if you just want to do something normal, but there's going to be a good system living in there somewhere.

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=21498.msg322713#msg322713

Once sieges are up for improvement in the army arc, I'm probably going to tackle things like siege towers, which are multi-tile, multi-level constructions that can move across the map while containing critters and items (much like boats would be)

[scriver]

There should also be stables at the very least, and probably some decent amount of living space outside the keep, since most castles expanded a bit in population after the construction was completed.

Otherwise, they'd be much less big, because all that empty space in the middle isn't good for anything, (a field would be a good bit smaller than that) and walls aren't cheap to build.

I was gonna post something similar earlier yesterday, but I restrained myself seeming as this is only the first iteration. It seems to me that such thing are most likely going in at a later state.

[Cruxador]

There should also be stables at the very least, and probably some decent amount of living space outside the keep, since most castles expanded a bit in population after the construction was completed.

Otherwise, they'd be much less big, because all that empty space in the middle isn't good for anything, (a field would be a good bit smaller than that) and walls aren't cheap to build.

I was gonna post something similar earlier yesterday, but I restrained myself seeming as this is only the first iteration. It seems to me that such thing are most likely going in at a later state.

Indeed. I had a similar thought process, but mentioned it in response to Japa as he seemed to indicate that this would be a good finished state, while I feel otherwise. I of course do not mean to imply that it should have all these things from the instant that the first vestiges of a properly walled castle is implemented.

[Eric Blank]

Really liking the new castles! Much more interesting than the old giant rectangles.

Are castles just a human-only thing right now? Will other races be getting interesting places soon?

This somehow brings to mind the idea of player-moddable sites and structures

Is this even a consideration at the moment?) There is already the ability to design quite a bit of the objects in the game. (Even new spoilers, actually. That is a spoiler)
I suppose it's rude to mention it considering I made that particular thread and all, but I still think it'd be unbelievably awesome for people like me who like to mod in their own civs and creatures to be able to provide them with unique housing and whatnot. Clearly it's not happening any time soon.

[Dae]

I just noticed something : while the keep is higher than all the towers... there's only ground level. No stairs. Then why bother making it higher ? Is that a bug ?

[Untelligent]

I just noticed something : while the keep is higher than all the towers... there's only ground level. No stairs. Then why bother making it higher ? Is that a bug ?

No, the ceiling is just really high.

[thvaz]

How much time it takes for a civ to build one of these castles? If they are not instantly built, can the process be interrupted? Are they built with materials available to the civilizations? Is wood one of these materials?Can they become ruins?

[Jiri Petru]

Why do the towers use ramps instead of stairs?
(And speaking of it, all the other adventurer mode buildings.)

[Footkerchief]

Why do the towers use ramps instead of stairs?
(And speaking of it, all the other adventurer mode buildings.)

Probably because DF ramps are much more stairlike than DF stairs, which are more akin to antigravity tubes or something.