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[ribosom]

Not a good idea if he wants to avoid his ass sued off by a jerk. Not that most people would sue him, but there is always the possibility.

lolwut?

You mean heŽll sue because Toady stole an idea that was posted in the SUGGESTIONS FOR THE GAME forum? And that some judge would find that in favor of him?

This is the most ridiculous thing IŽve heard in a long time.

[thvaz]

So maybe only first type of response?

It would give the proof of aknowledgment of the suggestion anyway.

lolwut?

You mean heŽll sue because Toady stole an idea that was posted in the SUGGESTIONS FOR THE GAME forum? And that some judge would find that in favor of him?

This is the most ridiculous thing IŽve heard in a long time.

I never said some judge would find that in favour of him. And there isn't any kind of contract you sign on suggestions forum giving the rights of your ideas to Toady.

Most certainly Toady would won, but this doesn't mean someone wouldn't want to try. And though Toady doesn't make the kind of money people would find worthy of a sue, you never know the future.

[ribosom]

I never said some judge would find that in favour of him. Please work on your reading.
Though most certainly Toady would won, this doesn't mean someone wouldn't want to try. You have to remember Toady lives in the US.

Right you didnŽt. No offense, mate, it just is really ridiculous.
Is there a case where something like that actually happened?

[Chthonic]

I'm sensing some frustration here.  Personally, I'd prefer that Toady spends more time coding and less time moderating, giving feedback on suggestions in the form of features rather than more plans.  He has a lot of plans . . . a surfeit, in fact--so many that really once the game is done, no one who plays it is going to be like, "Damn it, if it just had this one thing it would be perfect!"

I'll even play it if it ends up that there can be no functional sewers.

I agree with Kohaku, though, that certain haunters of the suggestions forum (in the past at least--I don't go there regularly anymore) are pretty off-puttingly cranky, ruling the threads therein with the iron snark of tyranny.  There should be a super-secret-double-suggestions forum for them, where they can huddle together and stew in their snide superiority, leaving the escaped lunatics to their fun

[thvaz]

Right you didnŽt. No offense, mate, it just is really ridiculous.
Is there a case where something like that actually happened?

No, I don't know any case, but the United States are infamous for this kind of ridiculous litigations, and I think Toady is very right on being cautious as he is.

[Kogut]

Litigation  For using suggestion from forum used to post suggestions? WTF, even US/EU law is not so stupid.

[ribosom]

Right you didnŽt. No offense, mate, it just is really ridiculous.
Is there a case where something like that actually happened?

No, I don't know any case, but the United States are infamous for this kind of ridiculous litigations, and I think Toady is very right on being cautious as he is.

Maybe youŽre right. I was really astonished when I heard for the first time why the americans have those 'Caution Hot Coffee' stickers on cups, or 'Caution XXX' on freakin' everything.
But I digress...

[Lord Shonus]

Anyone who tried such a lawsuit would be charged punitve damages and thrown out of court, if not jailed for contempt. Judges don't like actually stupid lawsuits any more than you do. (Most touted "stupid lawsuits" really aren't. For example, the famous coffee case involved coffee hot enough to couse second-degree burns to the woman in question.)

[tps12]

No, I don't know any case, but the United States are infamous for this kind of ridiculous litigations, and I think Toady is very right on being cautious as he is.

Maybe youŽre right. I was really astonished when I heard for the first time why the americans have those 'Caution Hot Coffee' stickers on cups, or 'Caution XXX' on freakin' everything.

The US has relatively weak consumer protection laws in general, so the accessibility of our civil courts sort of serves as a stop-gap. Not necessarily the most efficient way of doing things, but not completely pointless.

[G-Flex]

The US has relatively weak consumer protection laws in general, so the accessibility of our civil courts sort of serves as a stop-gap. Not necessarily the most efficient way of doing things, but not completely pointless.

Except that it costs so much money and is so difficult to actually win a case that they're pretty much always settled out-of-court. You can't really win.

[TolyK]

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Politics in large quantities are fatal to threads 

[Greiger]

Yea there are folks that sue just for the sake of getting money and screw the other guy, and generally the ones that do happen are settled out of court. And then even after all that I imagine they arent very well liked by the local buisnesses anymore if the word gets out.   

I heard some kid at Disney burned himself on some nacho cheese because he was eating it too quickly or something.  Then the parents decided to sue.  Because the cheese was hot...no shit Sherlock, it's nacho cheese, if it wasn't hot it would be....a lump of cheese....well it wouldn't be nacho cheese at any rate.

But more or less on topic, I don't really think Toady's worried about lawsuits.  Our civil courts aren't quite that nuts.  And even if somebody did try to sue for money from a suggestion forum suggestion they would have a hard time getting a lawyer for it.  They aren't cheap even when they are pretty sure they will win, let alone when a loss is almost assured.  Toady's probably just too busy.

P.S. TolyK ninjad me with an anti-politics post.  I blame society.

[TolyK]

not exactly anti-politics, but more "keep to the respective thread".
we don't want

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do we?

[G-Flex]

Now that there's a new release, we can talk about that instead!


I love troll-wool and evil grasses. On the other hand, I'm also afraid that this continues the trend of "everybody has all of the same stuff, except flavored differently" (e.g. dwarves get trees except they're fungus now, and grass except they're fungus now, and farming except... it's, well, fungus now, etc.) whereas I'd prefer to see more substantial distinction in that regard. That being said, both types of development can be good and make sense to a reasonable degree, and troll wool is freaking great.

I'm starting the first one to two week bug fix cycle now, so there weren't a lot of bug fixes for this release, but creatures, items and vegetation don't pick up as many contaminants now.

I'm just hoping this doesn't mean that those one to two weeks will be the entirety of the bug-fixing. I was under the impression a more thorough effort was planned for the near future, and I hope that's still the case, since the game could really use some cleaning up in a few areas before moving on to new ones.

[KillerClowns]

*Embarks in Evil Biome*

Eyeballs.  Okay... that's a little, uh... eyeballs.